If Quran is the holy book of signs, why is it that the quran says Earth is flat in Q.79:30? Show me where the quran says earth is round.
If the quran is a book of signs, how come the quran made a mistake that a child in his or her mother's womb becomes a bone before being covered in flesh in Q.23:14?
There is
error with the big bang and every other things u posted here are scientifically
proven to be wrong.
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You are a Liar and stupid. John wrote the Gospel before the Book of Revelation. Jesus told John to write the Revelation. Revelation 1:19
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Listen, if you have ears: Satan is the Destroyer sent by Yahweh. So whenever Satan or Satan's can touch you, it is because Yahweh allows it. Satan is a slave of Yahweh, though he doesn't want to be a slave, but wants to be god; so he claims himself god in the quran. That's why Allah in the quran is the Destroyer, the Bringer of Death, Quran3:156, 7:158, 15:23, 57:2. & Allah dares not to reveal his name, allah is a noun, not a name.
"... the LORD will pass over the door and will not allow the destroyer to enter your houses to strike you." Exodus 12:23
"'I will appoint over them four kinds of destroyers,' declares the LORD (Yahweh)." Jeremiah 15:3, ref. Isaiah 33:1
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Sura 22:52 refers to that every prophet or messenger recited their message under Satanic inspiration, at least once. Jesus, whom Muslims wrongly regard merely as a prophet, is never recorded in the 4 Gospels as speaking Satan-inspired words. In fact, it is impossible to find these egregious falsehoods in great Biblical prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel while they were speaking under divine guidance.
.. contd. Hebrews 4:15 Yes Jesus had been in his human flesh tempted just as we are, but unlike us, he didn't fall into those temptations which gives way to "sin". Since sin is falling short of God's perfection Jesus was never less than perfect at any time. So yes, we worship such a perfect God, who is sinless in nature and the only one who could defeat Satan in his temptations.
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Donkey,
our God has no wife, the idea of god having a wife came from your quran where
Allah says he has no son becos he has no consort. Allah believes in consort
before he can have a son. Our God does not need a wife before he can have a
son.
Remember that Allah blew his spirit into Mary's Vagina in Q.21:91
Yahweh
became A flesh through the holy spirit and was born by Mary as prophecised in
Isaiah 9:6. Also, God became a Prophet of the covenant as prophecised in
Malaika 3:1.
Yahweh did
not mention Mary's vagina to become Jesus but Allah admitted he blew his winds
into Mary's Vagina in order for Mary to conceive Issa in Q.21:91.
So, the dirty
mind of having a son by touching a vagina came from the dirty mind of Allah
himself. LOL
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I agree
God created me but Allah is not God but Lucifer.
Were
Scientists there when Allah created Galaxy? Who created the scientists?
We read in Q.19:40 that Allah inherited the earth and heaven. Did Allah inherit the
earth and heaven from the scientists?
How did
Allah create Eve?
If Quran
is the holy book of signs, why is it that the quran says Earth is flat in
Q.79:30? Show me where the quran says earth is round.
If the quran is a book of signs,
how come the quran made a mistake that a child in his or her mother's womb
becomes a bone before being covered in flesh in Q.23:14?
There is
error with the big bang and every other things u posted here are scientifically
proven to be wrong.
My
question, Plants or animals, which one was created first?
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Lev 11:7-8
Law of Moses was fulfilled. Luke 24:44. allah the satan copied law of Moses , Muslims loves unclean camels, Leviticus 11:4
This is a
smart question from a dummy muslim. But the best way to make you understand
this is to explain why Allah and his Angels are praying in Q.33:56 upon Muhammed. The word, Yusalloon is Praying. The word, Baarika
is blessing in English. Muslims translators were so smart to twist Yusalloon in
Q.33:56 to blessings.
So, tell me, Was Allah praying
to Himself in Q.33:56? Your
answer will make u understand why Jesus shouted Eli Eli....
Why did you run from Q.33:56? Tell me who Allah is praying to in Q.33:56.
John 20:17 is very clear because Jesus was both Man and God at the same time. The human side of Jesus acknowleges God the father same way in Q.19:17Allah's spirit became a Man and the Man can acknowledge Allah.
John 5:30 Jesus could do nothing bcos his judgement is the same as the
father Judges. I can of myself do nothing means both the father, son and the
spirit are coherently equal same as blood and flesh.
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Yes, Jesus came out from a Vagina Allah himself blew his own spirit into that same Vagina in Q.21:91.
LOL
Q.21:91 And Mary who guarded her Vagina(Farjaha) and we blew into Her vagina
Our spirit.
So, no big deal if Jesus come out from a vagina but there is problem with Allah blowing winds into Mary's vagina.
Are you
scared to give me the exact age of Joseph in catholic encyclopedia? can u
explain why Allah did not mention Joseph throughout the quran?
What was
Muhammed's age when Muhammed first had sex with Aisha?
Is there any sex of the holy ghost with Mary in Luke 1:35? Is there
a mention of Vagina in Luke 1:35 like
Q.21:91 where Allah says he will put his spirit into Mary's vagina(farjaha)?
Are you
saying Vagina is a bad thing to come out from? So, are u saying it's wrong for
Allah to blow his spirit into Mary's vagina in Q.21:91?
You are right, Jesus was a prophet and at the same time he was divine. Read Malaika 3:1 where Yahweh himself said i will send a messenger to prepare the way for me so that the lord, the messenger of the covenant will come......I hope u have eyes to read that God will act as a prophet of the covenant. LOL Maybe the Jews corrupted this. LOL
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Allah clearly says in Q.9:29 that muslims should fight against the people of the book as they believe not in Allah until they pay Jizya... Can u quote bible God?
Christians
& Jewish martyrs say; "I will die for what I believe".
A Muslim
martyr says; "you will die for what I believe".
Yet poor
misguided muslims says their koran is truth word of, Well definitely not the
Word of the TRUE God obviously, but Allah the pagan god.
Mohammed said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah” (Al Bukhari vol. 4:196).
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If i May ask Who is Allah praying(Yusalloon) to in Q.33:56? Tell me, Explain how Allah expect a pregnant woman like Mary to pull down a date palm tree? Also, can u explain how Allah expect a date palm to be ripe in the time of Jesus birth, it seems Allah did not know the right season for a ripe date palm. LOL
Dont be fool like your Muhammed. Can u explain who is the Lord, Allah is worshipping in Q.27:91?
Allah says in the quran that the quran has been written in clear arabic language for you to understand.
So, i dont need tafsir to understand the quran, it's very clear.
In the arabic text, there is no word like '' for me''. This is the addition of the muslims to the quran to cover the shame of the quran.
Q.27:91 clearly starts with: I am simply commanded to worship the Lord of the town....
There is no mention of muhammed or the pronoun, For Me in Q.27:91
show me where Allah ordered muhammed to say the words in Q.27:91. I really want to see, I oredered Muhammed to say I am simply commanded to worship the lord of the town in Q.27:91.
Rabinical records shows that melchizedek is a priesthood position occupied by the levites. Of course the levites have descendants and ancestors but melchizedek is God himself who is being represented on earth by Priest.
why not read Luke 19:27 from Luke 19:14 for u to get a clearer picture?
Good question. Jesus saying he came for the lost sheep of israel in context means sinners(lost sheep) of the world(israel). Israel is God's chosen people and in context Jesus meant the sinless people who later went astray.
All people of the world are all sinners and Jesus came for the lost sheep that is the sinners of the world.
Allah says in Q.14:4 that We sent messengers of different languages to speak in the language of his own people, Explain how Muhammed was for humanity?
But Jesus himself defines the antichrist in 1 John 2:22 that he will deny the father and the son. Paul acknowledged the father and the son. But Allah denies the father and the son in Q.5:18.
Allah is the antichrist.
Firstly, Muslims claim Jesus did not declare himself to be God, How could Jesus who is not God send his own Angels to judge people to hell in Matt 13:40?
Secondly, Allah promises mankind hell. Allah says in Q.11:119 that except thy Lord saves You, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
We have been asking muslims who is the other Lord, Allah is refering to in Q.11:119 but muslims will never answer.
If muhammed commanded muslims not to praise him, why then muslims kill people who make muhammed's cartoon?
But Jesus himself acknowledged that he is God when he said in john 13:13 that Ye call me lord and teacher, so, I am.
Christians praise Jesus as God because God himself became a Flesh, read Malaika 3:1 God became a Messenger of the covenant.
Mr Donkey, Jewish law is part of the mosaic law which muslims of today quote as if God made those laws.
Lastly, your post here did not prove anything against Paul
Remember, Ibn kathir confirms Allah sent Paul to antiock in Q.36:14-23, this proves a muslim scholar believes Jesus is the same as Allah.
Ibn Abbas also confirms that the three messengers in Q.36:14-23 were all Jesus disciples. LOL
Thank u very much. The followers of Jesus were called christians becos people saw the fruit of Jesus in them. They did not kill people who were against them and they did not spread christianity by the sword. Muslims are called Muhammedam becos of the fruit of muhammed ranging from raping captives, terrorising those who do not accept islam and so on.
Ibn kathir was one of the five greatest scholars in islam who mentioned Bulus(paul) to be one of the three messengers sent in Q.36:14-23
The Verse Muhammed claimed he saw Allah? read Q.53:5-11
If I proof you must
The Spherical Shape of the Earth, now every one know its very well.Sir Francis Drake proofed in 1577
Quran:31:29 See you not that Allah merges the night into the day and merges the day into the nigh. Now if the was flat there would have been sudden change from night and day..
Quran:39:5 He has created the heavens and Earth with truth,He makes the night to go in the day and make the day to go to the night. we made earth egg shape
Mt 11:27-30.Jesus said All things have been committed to me by my Father, and no-one knows the Father except the Son and those whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
"Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls.For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light."
hahahaha. Wa Al Ard dahaha means And the Earth made flat. Dahaha means streth out, a plain surface, flat. Dahaha in arabic is used as an active word and Taha is used as a passive word. Taha means flattened out. Taha is the arabic word used in Q.88:20
Q. 88:20(NJ DAwud) Nor even how the earth has been FLATTENED out.
Q.79:30(Al Jalalayan) And the Earth he made flat....LOL
Could you be an hero in islam by showing me a bible verse that uses a Literal Word, Flat Earth. LOL
Matthew narrated the Gospel of Matthew but Scribes penciled it down. If Matthew did not write or scribes of the Gospel of Matthew wrote a bad thig about the gospel, tell me why Muhammed aka Allah copied Matthew 19:25-26 into Q.7:40
Secondly, Muslims say Allah speak directly in the quran, can you then explain to me who Allah is worshipping in Q.27:91
Q.27:91 I am simply commanded to worship the Lord of this town -........
Who is Allah worshipping in Q.27:91? Say something, my dear
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Allah and Muhammed support human sacrifice for salvation. Q.9:111 Allah says anybody that kills and get killed, he will reward them with paradise fill with sex.
The Prophet said: The intercession of a martyr will be accepted for seventy members of his family.
Abu Dawud bk14N2516
Anyone who kills an infidel is guaranteed Paradise.
Abu Dawud Number 2489
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Allah specifically says: The Sins of Martyr are Forgiven and They are Guaranteed Paradise.
And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass.
Qur'an 3:157
Sahih Muslim Bk20N4678
It has been reported on the authority of Jabir that a man said: Messenger of Allah, where shall I be if I am killed? He replied: In Paradise. the man threw away the dates he had in his hand and fought until he was killed
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Can you show me the salvation in islam?
If the hour comes, All muslims will surely see hell fire in Q.19:70-73.
Jesus says i am going to prepare a place for you so that where i am, you will be there. in my father's house, there are alot of mansions........
Can you show me the assurance muhammed gave to his own followers like Jesus?
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Why do u have problem with Jesus praying to the father but you have no problem with Allah praying in Q.33:56:
Can you show me the verse where Jesus prayed to the father to send Angels to strengthen him against satan?
Who is the other lord, Allah is calling here?
Allah says in Q.27:91 I am commanded to worship the lord of this town.
Since, Allah talks in the quran, who is the Lord here?
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where does the bible say Xmas tree is pagan? have u ever seen nails and hammers in xmas tree?
Can you explain why only Muhammed knew about the kaaba? Zamzam well was dug by the pagans, why muslims go crazy for zamzam? Secondly, which prophet of God says it's ok to kiss a black stone or travel for hajj?
ramadan started before islam, why muslims copied this from the pagans? Marwa and sarfa were idols in the pre islamic era according to bukhari hadith, why muslims venerate it?
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the quran is meant for fools who believe God can reveal a book that is filled with errors historically and otherwise. Do u know that Allah kept on calling Jesus, Moses Nephew? LOL!!! Allah even called Mary, sister of Aaron. Mary was not from the tribe of levite but from Judah. LOL
Secondly, u said if the quran is thrown into sea, muslims will recover it, how will muslims recover it? LOL
Lastly, there are many different quran. LOL
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haha Jesus did not tell his followers to kiss a black stone or travel for hajj, or circle kaaba or throw stones at the devils or venerate zamzam, or run to and fro marwa and sarfa idols as these were from the arab pagans.
God almighty himself claimed to be Jesus, the messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1. So, if u say Jesus says worship his lord, he is refering to himself becos God himself called Jesus the lord, the messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1.
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The Qur'an's word on Mohammed's behavior is without any example, aside from the indications that Mohammed gets special privileges (See Q33:50. That Mohammed is quite a hunk of burnin' love, eh? ROFL).
So does the hadith that you prefer supercede the Q4:34: "As for those (women) from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them?" Why did AIsha say that she saw no women suffering from as much abuse as do Moslem women (Buk. 7:72:715)?
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And Thomas answered and said unto [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God John 1:1
...the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...John 1:14
And the angel said to her, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found grace ( free, spontaneous, absolute favor and loving-kindness) with God.And listen! You will become pregnant and will give birth to a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus.He will be great (eminent) and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to Him the throne of His forefather David,And He will reign over the house of Jacob throughout the ages; and of His reign there will be no end.Luke1:31-33
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You are not a sheep, but a goat. That's why you cannot understand Jesus our Shepherd.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” ~Jesus (Rev. 1:8, 22:13)
Jesus said God was greater than Him because He spoke it in the role of the Son of Man & humbled Himself. Jesus' words in Mark 10:18 means: since no one is good except God alone, & you call me good, you should know that I am I am God." The Jews understood Him & took Him as a blasphemer.
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hahahaha So, tell me what's the truth in islam?
Can you show me the salvation in islam?
If the hour comes, All muslims will surely see hell fire in Q.19:70-73.
Jesus says i am going to prepare a place for you so that where i am, you will be there. in my father's house, there are alot of mansions........
Can you show me the assurance muhammed gave to his own followers like Jesus?
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haha Jesus did not tell his followers to kiss a black stone or travel for hajj, or circle kaaba or throw stones at the devils or venerate zamzam, or run to and fro marwa and sarfa idols as these were from the arab pagans.
God almighty himself claimed to be Jesus, the messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1. So, if u say Jesus says worship his lord, he is refering to himself becos God himself called Jesus the lord, the messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1.
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Secondly, Jesus saying no one is Good except God, we christians understand Jesus has two nature, one was human and the other Divine.The father is greater than i is the human side speaking but the God side of Jesus says I and the father are one in John 10:30, Jesus says in John 10:11 I am the good shepherd......
Do you believe your quran and hadith clearly says Allah is satan, the deceiver that is coming to deceive the world?
Do u know that there are many gods beside Allah?
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if you are a christian, you should know Jesus talks as a man and as God. If you read John 10:11 Jesus says i am the good shepherd.......Remember Psalms 23 where David says the Lord is my Shepherd i shall not want.....
Psalms 110:1 David recognises the son and the father as Lords.
Can u explain malaika 3:1 to me?
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Why do u have problem with Jesus praying to the father but you have no problem with Allah praying in Q.33:56:
Can you show me the verse where Jesus prayed to the father to send Angels to strengthen him against satan?
Who is the other lord, Allah is calling here?
Allah says in Q.27:91 I am commanded to worship the lord of this town.
Since, Allah talks in the quran, who is the Lord here?
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You asked for it
@ 1:40, she accurately quotes from Bukari 1:2:24. No response by the "scholar," "Dr." Ibrahim Al-Khouli
@ 2:40 she accurately refers to Q2:65, 5:60 & 7:166. Again, no correction or clarification from the enraged but impotent "scholar."
@ 3:05 she accurately quotes Q5:77, but the "lion" of Islam, Ibrahim cannot pounce on her argument.
Wafa Sultan strikes fear into Islam because she is a fearless women that speaks the truth about this foul ideology.
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"If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread." ~Satan (Matt. 4:3)
"If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, 'He will command his angels concerning you, and, On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'" ~ Satan (Matt. 4:6)
"All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me." ~Satan (Matt. 4:9)
"All these in my luxury whorehouse paradise I will give you." ~Allah of Mohammed (quran 1-114)
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The Jews don't hate Jesus (Yeshua) at all; many of them just don't believe Him to be their Messiah; like muslims, many Jews can't accept Jesus is God.
But ALL Jesus' disciples are Jews. ALL His disciples died for Jesus. The entire Bible, Old Testament + New Testament, are written by Jews.
"Salvation is from the Jews." ~Jesus (John 4:22, ref. Isaiah 59:20)
God is Love. Jesus will come back to save the whole house of Israel. (Acts 15:16; Amos 9:11, 12; Jer 12:15)
Cheers :D
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Q: what is a muslim marriage?
A: A marriage contract gives a muslim man the right to enjoy the woman's private parts. ~Mohammed (Bukhari 7:81)
Q: was Mohammed a pedophile?
A: Aisha, the child bride of Mohammed, said: "The [54] Apostle of Allah had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old." (Abu Dawud, V.2, #2116; Tabari, V7, P7; V 9, P131; Sahih Muslim V2, #3309)
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Lust & Shame of a muslim man:
Muslims have constant unquenchable thirst for their male organs. Their paradise tells everything: "Each inmate of paradise will have 72 women... everyone with pleasant vagina, the man will have permanent erection." ~Mohammed (Sunaan ibn Majah 5.4337)
Yet Muslims are very ashamed of their male organs. They keep yelling to Christians: "your God has a dick!" Let me tell you this: every muslim dick belongs to their allah, Mohammed's allah has billions of dicks. lol
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LOL silly silly muslim head.
The earliest known Egyptian mummy , nicknamed 'Ginger' for its hair colour, dates back to approximately 3300 BC. The last Pharaohs were Cleopatra VII and her son Ptolemy XV, from 44 to 30 BCE; the qurans were complied by many hands 20+ years after Mohammed was completely rotten to nothing, that is, 642 CE.
Allah made a sign in 632 that had already been practicing in Egypt for 3900 years? LOL muslim sick in the head.
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There was no last prophet mention by Jesus coming after Him. If you USE YOUR BRAIN WISELY AND THINK STRAIGHT YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND. Whenever non-muslims drawed cartoon of Mohammad or insulted him. Muslims go in for the kill, all hell broke loose.
Mohammed said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah” (Al Bukhari vol. 4:196). So much for the "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." huh! Can you explain that?
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When a Muslim declares that Islam is a religion of peace, he/she is either ignorant of the Koran or is deceitfully thinking of this "peace", as it extends only to those within the Muslim Community. The deceit is that they will not tell you exactly what they mean. According to the koran. "Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers" Surah 48:29.
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Your "prophet" claimed to have the sexual strength of 30 ordinary men (Bukhari 1:5:268). But was it true? In Bukhari 7:71:660&661 we read how he was BEWITCHED into thinking he had had sex with all of his wives.
Now, let me ask you: What kind of "prophet" is sex-obsessed in the first place and can be bewitched in the second place?
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Mohammed wasn't sex-obsessed you say? If he were alive today would you let him baby-sit your kids? I wouldn't.
You say that the hadith passage from Bukhari 1:5:268 reads "We used to say that the "prophet" was given the strength of 30," this in relation to his "making the rounds" with his wives. So how did the commenters know this? Did they watch? Did Mo's wives tell them? Or did Mo himself say something? Explain this delicate matter to us, please :))
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If your Mr. Allah were really God the Almighty, then the Qur'an would be free of goof-ups. Instead we get Q4:171, 5:73, 5:116, etc. etc. LOL
If your Mohammed were truly a "prophet" then his words would complement and clarify earlier revelation instead of being in blatant disagreement.
Why should anyone respect a creature such as Mohammed, whose code of conduct was outrageously self-serving? He was a sociopath.
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Firstly, tell me the truth in islam. Secondly, Jesus said he is the only way to paradise not muhammed. Will you accept Jesus and forgo muhammed?
Where did Jesus pray for God to strengthen him against satan?
Ishmael means God(el) Hears. In arabic, it should be Allah hears, why is it Ishmail(ilah hears) and not Ishmaallah?
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Muslims do many stupid painful things for no reason. They don't know why they do them; they do them because their pedophile prophet did them, i.e. men & women circumcision, stone to death, honor killing... these are not even in the quran!
Bukhari 7.777 Allah's Apostle said, "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubic region, clipping the nails and cutting the moustaches short." –– muslims' godly things :D
The Bible tells why circumcision was needed.
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The muslim circumcision is silly because their circumcision is outward and physical. God is Spirit, He looks at the heart.
The muslim circumcision is a garment dressed by a dirty corpse. No matter how beautiful the garment could be, it is defiled by the corpse.
"For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter." (Romans 2:28-29
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The circumcision was not for health benefit alone. Abraham performed circumcision when he was 99 years old, long after after Ishmael was born but before Isaac was born.
Circumcision was on the foreskin because Fleshy lust is the enemy of God (Romans 8:6-8). It helps us remember to deny ourselves & take up our crosses & follow Jesus. (Matt.16:24)
Your understanding of circumcision shows you do not know God at all. And, what's the medical benefits for female circumcision in Islam?
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Jesus was not only circumcised, but also baptized. He did all these to fulfill all righteousness (Matthew 3:15).
1. He is the Son of Man, son of David, son of Abraham. His FLESH bears the sign of the covenant between Abraham and God. (Matthew 1:1, Genesis 17:11)
2. He is our great high priest. Baptism is the purification ceremony to assume His high priesthood under Moses' Law (Hebrew 9:11, Exodus 29:4)
3. Baptism = total circumcision = die in the FLESH with Christ + rise in Him
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Ibn kathir, one of the greatest scholars in islam says Paul was one of the three messengers sent by Allah in Q.36:14-23, so, based on your opinion, Allah is an antichrist becos Paul worked for Allah. LOL
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hahaha If you use a compass from singapore to mecca, it's not possible to bow down thinking your head will be facing mecca. LOL. It's not even in the direction of mecca if you bow down from singapore except if muslims want to follow Allah's assertion that Earth is flat. LOL
Was Satan physically present with Jesus?
If Your Allah is intelligent, Tell me, which one was created first, Heaven or Earth? LOL
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If there is no compulsion in religion, Why then Muslims are commanded to kill Apostates?
Secondly, Why did Allah say in Q.9:29 that the people of the books should be fought untill they pay Jizya?
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Any christian that die in sin will go to hell. The only people that will enter heaven are those who live a sinless life, those who are born again, those who fosake from sins.
Q.19:70-73 is Allah's assertion to Muslims that all will see hell fire
Q.19:68 says We will gather all around hell fire.
Q.3:185 says every soul will taste death and each will be rewarded will be rewarded in hell fire to paradise.
How do u mean i am taking Q.11:119 out of context? Explain Q.11:119
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You are wrong because Satan and Jesus encounter is a spiritual face off, not a physical one. Satan showed Jesus his earthly kingdom and satan's kingdom is spiritual. Your Quran and hadith also say Satan's throne is upon the ocean, if i may ask, can u see any throne of satan physically on the ocean?
If the world is spherical, Why Allah keeps sayin the earth is flat? Do u have any verse where Allah says Earth is spherical or round? LOL
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Allah says in Q.3:2-3 that he revealed the quran in truth to confirm previous scritures. Are you saying Allah is a Joker for confirming the bible that u called a Joke.
Please, show me the round earth verse of your porno magazine(quran)
Tell me, what is the reward of muslims women in Allah's brothel? Will women like your Mum have Male companion too?
Allah says in Q.78:31 that muslim men will meet Virgins with Swollen breasts. Dont you think this is a Joke? LOL
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There is supposedly only one "Qur'an" today. Yet the ahadith indicate that there were SEVEN different recitations (Bukhari:3:41:601, 4:54:442, 6:61:513 & 514, 9:93:640; Muslim 4:1782, 4:1787; Malik’s Muwatta 15:15.4.5). So where are the other six versions of the Qur'an?
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AH! Here returns another of Mr. Allah's dogs, LOL! Whatever you said 3 months ago, it certainly was NOT a satisfactory answer to one of the most egregious errors in the Qur'an: the confusion Mr. Allah has concerning the Trinity. You should remember how you were spanked with this, don't you? If not, here it is again: explain why Mr. Allah states "Say not 'three'" in Q4:171 & Q5:73, instead of "Trinity." Doesn't he know the difference? Isn't the Qur'an supposed to be "clear?" Speak!
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The bible held in Jesus hands is the jewish scrolls which muslims accuse to be corrupted bcos muhammed's name is not found there and there is no kaaba or mecca mentioned in it.,
Allah has no problem with many authors of the bible when he said in Q.80:13-16 that suhufin(scrolls) is written by pious and honourable scribes. LOL
There is no contradiction in the bible but your satanic mind has made u think otherwise. Chronicles said Satan is a direct reference other than samuel
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show me the verse where Jesus prayed to God to strengthen him against Satan? But Ibn kathir clearly says Paul was one of the messengers sent to antiock in Q.36:14-23
Q.3:185 says every soul will die, Explain why Muslims say Jesus did not die.
I am waiting for your response.
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Bible God only allows satan aka Allah to deceive people who disobey God's commandments. Why not read 1 kings 22:23 from 22:1-23 in context. God was only saying that prophets who sinned would be made to lie that is, God will allow them to be used by satan(lying spirit)
Is Allah a satan?
Allah says in Q.35:6 that satan wants his foillowers to be dwellers of hell fire.
Allah says in Q.11:119 that Except thy lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
LOL
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I have answered this question. Jesus was not ignorant of the time of the fig but Jesus only used the fig tree to perform a miracle that if his followers have faith, they can do more than moving a mountaoin with out hesitation.
Jesus was born during summer time and Allah says to pregnant Mary in Q.19:23to shake the trunk of a tree so that a ripe dates may fall
explain how a pregnant Mary will have the power to shake a palm tree and how a tree will bring out a ripe fruit in summer?
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Jesus was partly Man and God because God himself became a Man same way Allah's spirit became a Man. Jesus had emotional feelings like a mere man and so he's bound to feel pain.
Muhammed was one of the gods in islam being worshipped by muslims according to bukhari hadith, explain why Muhammed was crying of pain when he was dying of poison?
Thank u, Jesus was 100 percent Man and 100 percent God, so, Jesus call the father as a man and as God, Jesus says he is equal to God in Luke 6:5
hmm, God himself clearly says in Malaika 3:1 that he will be a prophet of the covenant, so, Jesus himself was sent as a Man but as God, he sent many prophets too. All islamic scholars confirmed Jesus is Allah in Q.36:19-23 that the three messengers sent by Allah were all Jesus disciples. LOL
If Jesus had bastards in his ancestors, how does that affect his divinity? Why do u have problem with Jesus ancestors but you have no problem with Muhammed's ancestors being a moon god worshipper?
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hahahahah Explain where Allah specifically say the unrighteous are judged in a whole community destroyed by Allah in Q.28:59?
hahahahahahaha This guy is trully Mad. LOL
How could Yr false muhammed be the last prophet of Allah when Allah promises to send a beast as a prophet to speak to mankind in S. 27:82
Did i hear you say David, Jesus and Moses spoke the same with Muhammed? You must be Mad, u need a psychiatric doctor to get you examined.
Can you show me any verse where Jesus, David, Moses and any other Jewish prophets say there is Virgins for sex in Heaven? LOL
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Are you sure i am stupid? Lets see why i think you and other muslims are stupid and foolish.
Sahih BukhariVol 8 Book 76 Number 531
Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, "You will meet Allah barefooted, naked, walking on feet, and uncircumcised."
According to the above hadith, Muhammed says Muslims will meet Allah, in nakedness. Allah must have both dick and vagina bcos Muhammed said so in the tafsir Al qutubi commentary on Q.18:50
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hahahah Can you show me any sex in Numbers 31:35-40? I can show u hadith where muhammed and his companion were raping captives based on Allah saying you can have sex with what the right hand possesses.
But you clearly admitted that your Porn Quran says Allah did blow job to Mary's Private part(Farjaha). LOL
I am still waiting for the reward of muslim women in Allah's brothel. LOL
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hahahaha You are a muslim and you are taught to lie to defend your religion.
Allah revealed Q.22:52 to defend muhammed for saying he delivered satanic verses. Allah lied that previous prophets used to deliver satanic verses too and that Muhammed was not an exception.
Stop lying, Muhammed said the three daughters of Allah should intercede for muslims and that they are exalted cranes. These verse has been omitted through abrogation.
Ibn kathir, Al Jalalayan etc confirmed it too. LOL
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If Allah trully curse satan, How come Allah's name is not attached to ishmael and Gabriel in hebrew and arabic? In arabic, Ishmael is Ishmail not Ishmaallah and Gabriel is Jubri not Jubralllah. il is an abbreviation of ilah.
Secondly, Allah says in Q.35:6 that satan wants his followers to be dwellers of hell fire.
Allah says in Q.11:119 that except thy Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
Is Allah the same as Satan? Secondly, who is the Lord here?
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said "they know Islam is the truth and deep inside their hearts"
Your koran says "Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah."
Mohammed said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah” (Al Bukhari vol. 4:196).
Sura 9:39 “If you do not fight, He will punish you severely, and put others in your place”
Salam - thanks for NO TRUTH at all!
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If Allah is without beginning, How come Allah says in Q.19:40 that He inherited the heaven and the earth? Who did Allah inherit from Please?
If Allah has no beginning, why is it difficult for Allah to tell us what he created from Day 1 to the last day of creation? Tell me, Which Day did Allah create animal, sun, stars, heaven, Man etc? Which of these creature were created first and last?
Can u show me the verse where Allah created Kalimatullah(Word of Allah) aka Issa? LOL
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Do you enjoy Muhammed saying Horse dungs is equal to heavenly reward too? So, no need of suicide bombing. LOL
Sahih Bukhari V4BK52N105
The Prophet said, "If somebody keeps a horse in Allah's Cause motivated by his faith in Allah and his belief in His Promise, then he will be rewarded on the Day of Resurrection for what the horse has eaten or drunk and for its dung and urine."
LOL
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Show me where Jesus suck his Mother's breasts like the way Allah sucked Mary's Vagina in Q.21:91? LOL
cherry picking.Dungs refer to rubbish of the rejected sacrifices.
More Horse Dung and Urine equals More Heavenly Rewards
Bukhari V4BK52N105 The Prophet said, "If somebody keeps a horse in Allah's Cause motivated by his faith in Allah and his belief in His Promise, then he will be rewarded on the Day of Resurrection for what the horse has eaten or drunk and for its dung and urine."
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Yes, muhammed copied from the bible and added his own unfounded story. E.g Matthew 19:25-26 into Q.7:40.
The father, son and the holy spirit are one in Proverbs 30:4 and Psalms 110:1. Satan aka Allah will deny Trinity in John 2:22 and this is fulfilled in Q.5:18
Can u tell us the churches that are closed down? Can u tell us the most populated religion in the world?
Yes, Jesus says I am God in John 13:13
Yes, Jesus says I am to die as prophecised by former prophets in Matt 26:24.
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But why has it been difficult to tell us who Allah is arguing with in Q.73:11?
Q.73:11 Leave me Alone to deal with the deniers, lord of ease
The Phrase, 'Leave Me Alone'' is mostly used in argument or in fighting.
Can u answer this question Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
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Thank u, God did not fight with Jacob, Jacob prayed without ceasing and he got his prayers answered through wrestling with prayers, that's why Jacob is called Israel meaning Isra fights and conquer with God on his side.
Can you please answer Q.73:11? Also, from the arabic u posted, it says: And leave Me alone to deal with those in possession of the good things of life, who (yet) deny the Truth; and bear with them for a little while.
who is holding Allah not to deal with deniers?
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But Muslims believe Allah sent Jewish prophets and Muhammed, And Allah did say in Q.3:3 that he revealed the quran in truth to confirm the previous scriptures.
Secondly, Allah says to Muhammed in Q.10:94 that if he is in doubt of what has been revealed to him, he should seek the people of the book.
Also, Allah says in Q.10:64 that None of his words could be changed.
So, are you saying Allah failed for not protecting the bible?
How do u know the quran has been preserved?
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If i may ask, muslims love to copy Osama's lies that Vagina tastes like Wine in Solomon 7:2. Solomon 7:2 says Navel is a rounded goblet.
If i may ask, have u tasted your Mother's vagina before, How do u know Vagina taste like Wine? Did Allah say Vagina taste like Wine too in Q.21:91?
Does your mother's Vagina like a rounded goblet? LOL
Can you post the hadith that mention Muslim Women's reward in Allah's brothel? LOL
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said "Allah says they will never return to the true path"
Sura 9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you to victory over them, heal the breasts of the Believers.” Fight (kill) them (non-Muslims), and God will punish, (torment) them by your hands, cover them with shame. (Surah 9:14 at-Taubah 9:14)
Is that true path to you when your koran says alot about revenge and killing!?
You waste your own time. Your argument is weak!!!
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If Allah created anything, Why cant Allah tell us the history of Creation? LOL
Did i hear u say Allah has no eyes or legs like human?
The Face of Allah:
Qur’an 055:027: “And the Face of your Lord full of Majesty and Honour will abide forever.”
The Eyes of Allah
Quran 52:048:
“So wait patiently (O Muhammad SAW) for the Decision of your Lord, for verily, you are under Our Eyes
From the Above verses, Are you saying Allah's eyes and Face are not like Human being? Maybe like a Pig. LOL
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If the bible has been corrupted, why then Allah says he revealed the quran in Q.3:3 to confirm the previous scriptures?
Are u saying Allah was confirming corruption?
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha Zaik Naik discovered that. Muslims are foolish people.
Allah is not God becos Allah does not know the history of creation. Allah himself admitted that he will be destoyed at judgement day in Q.28:88
Aristotle wrote about this 1,000 years before muhammed was born in Meterology book 2 chapter 2.
You are sick for believing quran is revealed by God. LOL
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hahaha Can you show me any verse in the quran where Allah says, ''We'' is a plural of respect?
If We is used for Allah as respect then tell me who is the other lord in Q.19:64
Q.19:64 We come not down save by commandment of thy Lord.....
Since , We is a plural of respect for Allah, tell me, who is the lord that Allah seek authority from so as for him to descend?
Lastly, You are a stupid and foolish person if you are a muslim. LOL
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Mr donkey, Our God called the true God of israel can never make a mistake. Allah fucked up big time in bee sura.
Q.16:69 Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Lord, made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their bellies a drink divers of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect.
The funny mistake here is:
Allah told bees to eat from all fruits, but Bees decided to eat nectar and pollen instead.
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hmmm, good point, But muslims say only Allah speak in the quran, are you saying Angels speak in the quran too?
Then, why have you been running from nswering Q.73:11?
Allah says in Q.73:11 Leave me Alone to deal with the deniers, lord of ease....
Who is Allah actually arguing with or fighting with here? The Phrase, Leave me alone' is only applicable when one is fighting or arguing with someone.
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said "ALLAH the true God of the universe did CURSE satan in many verses in the noble Qur'an (015.034-035 - 004.117-118)"
Then @theyoussef curse infidels(whatever names they called the non-believers) and consider burning them in Hell, and his fellow muslims encourage him and says may Allah bless you. (What the Hell)
Muslims gave ppl more reason to know for sure Allah is the DEVIL SATAN, not God.
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"...CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
--Philippians 2:5-8
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The question u oght to ask is Did Jesus deliver a satanic verses like Muhammed? Or fall to Satan's temptation?
Matt 4:7 Jesus says to Allah aka satan not to tempt his lord thy God.
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if you believe Allah revealed the Torah and the Gospel and Allah says nobody can change his own words in Q.10:64, Are you saying bogus Men proved Allah wrong? And when did the bogus men change the torah and the gospel?
LOL!!! Which part of the bible is the truth and which part is false? LOL
Is the quran the truth? If u say Yes, then prove it by showing me the history of creation. LOL
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I love muslims sometimes bcos they ask common sense questions sometimes. Jesus as the son of Man was talking to the father in Luke 22:42
Can you tell us who Allah is arguing with in Q.73:11: Leave me Alone to deal with the deniers......
Silly brain, answer the question
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Muhammad did not kill anyone it's all lies, say Muslims
Bukhari–Vol 5, Bk 59, No 370 Narrated Al-Bara bin Azib: Allah’s Apostle sent a group of people to Abu Rafi. Abdullah bin Atik entered his house at night, while he was sleeping, & killed him
Q33.26 Those people of the Book (Xtians&Jews). Allah has sent down from their fortresses & cast terror into their hearts,some have been KILLED BY YOU & some ye made prisoners
THE END? MUHAMMAD KILLED BY POISON like a rat"
Google: "faithfreedom.o r g"
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ahahahaha So, God destroyed earth with Flood, is that condemnation by hell fire? You are sick upstairs. LOL
Can you please stay on topic. ?
Explain these two verses? Is Allah satan as a result of Q.11:119 and Q.35:6? LOL
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Jesus died on the cross 4 my salvation !!!.
Stupid idiot, What the angel had said, Jesus will save his people from their sins. Matthew 1:21
allah and his false prophet was proven Liars. Jesus still did not die, he was taken up. In 1st century, John saw Jesus, Jesus was in spiritual body and He is God. revealtion 1:14-16
In 9th century stupid idiot muslims said Jesus was taken up now still in human body.
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hahaha And Allah created Jinn sura. If the Jinn and Men are to worship Allah, why then Allah says in Q.11:119 that except the lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with jinns and men altogether.
Jinns as you rightly say that they are devils are against the true God of israel but in Jinns sura, they are praising Allah. This shows Allah is the satan, Jehovah drove out of heaven.
To prove me wrong Allah is not satan, tell me what Allah created from Day 1 to the last day of creation
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I want to know based on Q.4:48 did Allah forgive muhammed for delivering Al Lat, Al manat and Al uzza as intercessor for Allah?
Secondly, muhammed claimed he got this revelation from satan. Did Allah forgive him?
Lastly, if hindu person who believes in man gods become Muslim today, Will Allah forgive him based on Q.4:48:
Then why become muslim in the first place since if u have partners with Allah, u will never get forgiveness if u become a muslim. LOL
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Jesus is God but Allah is satan. Allah misleads people in Q.14:4. Allah guides nobody but to hell fire
Allah says in Q.11:119 that except thy lord saves you, i will fill hell fire with Jinns and men altogether.
Who is the other lord, Allah is calling here.?
LOL
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Jesus says the son of Man is the lord of sabbath in Luke 6:5. So, this means Jesus was human and God at the same time. As human he prayed to God the father but as God, he doesn't pray. Can u tell us who Allah is praying to in Q.33:56?
If no one saw God, explain how Mary saw Allah's image in Q.19:17 and Muhammed saw Allah's image in Q.53:9-11.
Jehovah is one and he became a Man, the messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1.
If Allah is one, Who is he refering to as Lord in Q11:119?
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Since you are a beast worshipper, you have been blind folded to mix up mosaic law with God's own law. Can you quote any of the verses directly to Bible God?
Q.28:58 Allah has completely destroyed many communities of Nations
Allah was boastful that he destroyed communities. Do u have an answer to that?
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Mr kaaba worshipper, Q.5:32 is all about a Jewish law muhammed copied into the quran. This verse specifically mentioned the Jews not the muslims. LOL
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Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari V 1, Book 4, Number 229:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to wash the traces of Janaba (Sperm) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).
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Back to my question, Allah says in Q.11:119 that except your Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether. Q.19:70 All mankind will enter hell fire. Q.3:185 Every Man shall tastes death and they shall be rewarded in hell fire.
Allah says in Q.35:6 that satan wants his followers to enter hell fire.
We find Allah mentioning another Lord in Q.11:119 to save people and My question is based on Q.11:119 and Q.35:6 is Allah same as Satan?
Stop playing pranks. LOL
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You are using tactics to run from Q.11:119 and Q,35:6. You just keep throwing insult.
Dont change question or use answer to ask a question
Q.11:119 says Allah wants jinns and men in hell
Q35:6 says satan wants his followers in hell
Explain this verse and stop using your ant's brain torun om question.
I'm waiting
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Tell us, what about the 211 verses missing from Surah Ahzab(Surah78) Muslims scholars including Aisha said this sura is as along as Cow Sura.
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Aisha testified to a ‘missing’ verse on stoning
“When the verses “Rajm” [Stoning] and ayah “Rezah Kabir” descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad, a GOAT ate the piece of paper while we were mourning.
1. Sunan Ibne Majah, Volume 2, Page 39, .
2. Musnad Imam Ahmad, Volume 6, Page 269,
3. Taweel Mukhtalif Al Hadees, Page 310
You will run away again asking same stupid question of which goat ate the quran.
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Yes, i heard it directly from Aisha's own lips. And Musnad Ahmed and others recorded it as follows:
Aisha says:
“When the verses “Rajm” [Stoning] and ayah “Rezah Kabir” descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad, a GOAT ate the piece of paper while we were mourning.
1. Sunan Ibne Majah, Volume 2, Page 39, .
2. Musnad Imam Ahmad, Vol 6, Page 269,
LOL!!! So, according to Musnad Ahmed, it was From Aisha. LOL
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The revelation from Muhammed was from satan. Muhammed himself said so. I can show you an hadith to prove myself.
Why is it that pagans before muhammed also bow down to the kaaba in worship of Allah too and muhammed copied it and lied Abraham built the kaaba, Why is it that only muhammed knew kaaba was built by Abraham, how come all Jewish prophets did not know this?
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No worries, i will answer your two questions. I posted Q.73:11 where Allah says Leave me alone to deal with deniers......
Who is Allah arguing with here?
Answer it, i have loads of evidence to convince you that Jesus is God(malaika 3:1) and Allah is satan(Q.11:119).
I will also define terrorism for u and for u to know how islam is called terrorist religion.
So, answer the question first becos i posted it, all muslims in this channel ignored it.
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can u show me the verse where Moses saw Allah's butt?
Sunan Ibn Maja, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39
Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
hahahaha Quran is porno and the hadith is also porno crazy.
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Oh, Allah has no limit to the number of virgins u can sex but muhammed recommended they were 72. So, enjoy yourself. LOL
Q. 78:33 (Arberry) "Surely for the godfearing awaits a place of security, gardens and vineyards, and maidens of SWELLING BREASTS (Arabic- kawa'ib), like of age, and a cup overflowing."
Of course, Allah has no limits to the swelling breasts prostitutes awaiting your COCK. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
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You are a kid. All muslims are programmed from child birth. You came to photocopy osama's lies about Mahbal and that Farj is not Vagina. Well, this is what islamic scholars say about farj on Q.21:91
"Abu Ja'far al-Tusi, as well as his al-Tabarsi, read the words, ‘We breathed INTO IT’ literally. Al-Tusi says: ‘It has been held that Gabriel BREATHED INTO MARY'S GENERATIVE ORGAN then God created Christ in it’ ..." (Ibid., p. 68)
So, are you sying Osama knows more than this scholars?
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Mahmoud M. Ayoub, an islamic translator commented Then of Mary He (author-allegedly God) continues: ‘And she who guarded well [lit. fortified] her chastity [lit. GENERATIVE ORGAN], and thus We breathed INTO HER of our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign [or miracle, 'Aya] for all beings’ (S. 21:90-91) ...
Mahmoud also commented that: And Mary daughter of 'Imran who guarded well her GENERATIVE ORGAN farjaha, and thus We breathed INTO HER of our spirit’ (S. 66:12).
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of the companions of MuhamMAD, muhammed said Satan normally lays eggs after sex with himself. His companions were amazed and muhammed said satan normally lays 10;000 eggs per sex. these eggs are later hatched and they become demons. No wonder we have Demon(Jinn) sura. LOL
Any christian in this channel that cant read arabic, please feel free to send me a mail, i will send u an arabic tafsirs of Al qutubi on Q.18:50, u can translate it on google or speak to anybody that speaks arabic.
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Another funny porno from the quran is Q.18:50. Allah says Satan has progeny(Kids). Muhammed's companion were amazed on how satan could have kids? Muhammed responded according to one of the greatest scholars of islam, Al Qutubi that Satan has two sexual organs, one in the right leg is the male organ and one in the left is female organ,Muhammed further said, satan have sex by shaking his legs together so that the male organ will enter the female organ. Does satan get pregnant, asked by one.......
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Muslims claim Allah speaks directly in the quran, I as a christian have no problem with this but i do have a problem with the following verses:
Allah says in
Q.11:119 except Your Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
Allah says in:
Q.35:6 satan wants his followers to be dwellers of hell fire.
So, If Allah says in Q.11:119 that he will fill hell fire with men and Jinns and judging from Q.35:6 satan is saying the same thing, is Allah the same as satan?
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Allah says you will have boys for sex too in his brothel. Sura: 52:24 - Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants handsome as Pearls well-guarded. Surah 76:19 - And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.
Do u want more? there is no limit to the number of vagina u will get but muhammed said it's 72 vaginas
Q 78:31 "As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins WITH SWOLLEN BREASTS for companions: a truly overflowing cup."
Al hadiths, Vol. 4, Page-172, No.34: Hozrot Ali (r.a) narrated that the Apostle of Allah said, “There is in paradise an open market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, at once he will have intercourse with them as desired.
Muslims claim Allah speaks directly in the quran, I as a christian have no problem with this but i do have a problem with the following verses:
Allah says in
Q.11:119 except Your Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
Allah says in:
Q.35:6 satan wants his followers to be dwellers of hell fire.
So, If Allah says in Q.11:119 that he will fill hell fire with men and Jinns and judging from Q.35:6 satan is saying the same thing, is Allah the same as satan?
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show me the specific verse u find muhammed in Isaiah 29. LOL Even your quran says muhammed was not a prophet. Q.29:27 says Prophethood and revelation will be in the seeds of Isaac and Jacob.
Jesus claimed to be God in Matt 4:7, Luke 6:5. etc. Jesus is the begotten son of God becos God became a man called Jesus.
Jesus was trully human and fully divine. Read Malaika 3:1 where Jehovah himself said he will be a messenger of the covenant.
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You have not answered why Allah ordered the pedo and his companion to slay kafirs in Q.9:5
What the people of the scripture do wrong that made Allah to command every muslim to fight the Jews and the chrisgtians until they pay jizya in Q.9:28?
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same question goes to u. Since a tree calls himself Allah in Q.28:30, Was Allah being controlled by the tree or Allah was just a Tree?
Remember, I have an hadith where muhammed said Allah is a tree that told him about the Jinns. LOL
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SAID: Since when did we agree to take Bible as the standard to judge others?
GO AND ASK YOUR CLOWN MUHAMMAD, YOU STUPID FUCK
#Quran 3:3 That what is in the Bible & Torah is true AND SPOKEN BY ALLAH long before ISLAM was born.
#Quranic verses on the Psalms of David:
Q4.163 We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him:
Q17.055 And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings
Q21.105 is a direct quote from Psalm xxxvii.29
Google:"wikiislam.n e t"
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WHO IS THE SILLY DONKEY HERE!
Stupid Quran has billshit in it and now you want to see the Torah?
As I said, look into your Quran 3:3 and ask your Clown Muhammad.
And I tell you what:
Quran 3:33 to 37 & again in Q 66:12 Mother of Jesus, daughter of Imran (Moses' dad),
Quran consists of human mistakes: Mary mother of Jesus daughter of Imran (father of Moses) was put in care of Zechariah (born and died 1st cent AD) Imran (born 1500 yrs before Zachariah)
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hahaha Do u have documentary proof that christians say they have not seen the Original Bible? Can you please tell me which Book Allah told Muhammed to seek from the people of the book if he is in doubt of what has been revealed to him in Q.10:94?
Muslims scholars dont see one quran,. some books for u to read. “An alteration in the Holy Quran”. (Tehzeeb-ul-Ahkaam, Vol. No. 7, Page No. 415), Quran is altered corrupted and in perverted form (Shia belief). (Fatuhat-e-Shia, Page No. 129)
Ahmad’s Musnad, Vol 2, page 88 ‘Umar said to me ‘How many verses are contained in the chapter of al-Ahzab?’ I said, ’72 or 73 verses.’ He said it was almost as long as the chapter of the Cow, which contains 287 verses, and in it there was the verse of stoning.
Since surah Ahzab was as long as cow sura and today quran only shows 73 verses, Can you please tell us where are the 211 missing verses?
This claim is from yr own muslim sources not christians. LOL
Two Surah’s missing from the Qur’an according to Mujma-ul-Zayad, Volume 7, Page 157. Shia quran has Surat al-walayat and Sura Nurayn in thier quran and Sunni does not have these two suras.
So, are you saying these islamic scholars are lying or you know more than them?
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Surrat Al Wilayat 7 verses Saintly (Patron) Chapter in the name of the all merciful Allah
1 You who are believers, believe in the prophet and the saint (patron, God-man) "which is Ali Bin Abi Taleb, Mohammed cousin" which we sent, they will guide you to the strait path. A prophet and a saint "belong to" each other, and I am the all knowing, the experienced.
Do u want more?
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satan worshipper, May the Curse of yr Moon god be upon u.
If Allah has no partners, Who is Allah talking to in Q.73:11: Leave Me alone to deal with the deniers...
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Well, Aisha the child bride of muhammed should give u the answer to the goat that ate the quran.
Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Nikah, Hadith # 1934)
Narrated Aisha 'The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept
under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
Do u know the history of the quran more than Aisha and Ibn Maja? LOL
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Can you explain this Quranic verse in Q.9:111 where Allah says he will reward any muslim that slay and slain for his cause? Is that what u called Cherry picking?
If your yes is yes and no is no, Can you please tell us who is Allah talking to in the following verse.
Q.73:11 Leave me to deal with the deniers
Who is holding Allah here? Or who is Allah fighting here becos i know if u want to fight, u shout at people to leave you alone to fight or when you are arguing, u use the phrase, ''leave me alone''
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If Allah did curse satan in yr quran, and muslims say Allah speaks in th quran, can you please tell me who Allah is refering to as another lord in this verse then
Q.11:119 except Your Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and Men altogether.
Allah says in the following verse that:
Q.35:6 satan wants his followers to be dwellers of hell fire.
So, If Allah says in Q.11:119 that he will fill hell fire with men and Jinns and judging from Q.35:6 shows Allah is satan
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hahahahah Explain where Allah specifically say the unrighteous are judged in a whole community destroyed by Allah in Q.28:59?
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kaaba worshipper, christians dont worship a man. The true God of israel says he will become a man and act as a messenger of the covenant in Malaika 3:1, so, if christians honour Jesus as God, we arehonouring the true God of israel that became a Man even in Isaiah 9:6 the everlasting Father, the Mighty God to be born. Only satan called Allah will deny the father and the son in John 2:22. LOL
No Jew ever say the torah has been corrupted. Quran is the only book that was corrupted by a goat
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So, in one simple question, Are you saying a woman's navel is Vagina? LOL!!!
Also, thank you for showing me muslim men reward in Allah's brothel, But can you please show me the verse where i can find muslim women rewards.
Are muslim women going to have sex too?
From all the Bible verses you posted here, i cant see any Woman's vagina like your porno magazine where Allah blows his spirit into Mary's Vagina(farj) in Q.21:91.
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Christian does not believe God has a biological son but God has spirtual son because God became a man same way Allah's spirit became a Man in Q.19:17
You changed my question, i challenged u to show me where Allah deny christian trinity concepts of father, son and holy spirit. U were trying to defend Allah's blunder.
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You are wrong again. I clealy challenged you to show me where allah specifically says dont mention the father, son and holy spirit. The only trinity Allah keeps repeating in the quran is Allah, Jesus and Mary. This is an error and does not represent christians trinity belief. LOL
Yes, there are many creators in the quran and the hadith.
You ran away from Q.37:125 becos Allah clearly says he is the best of all creators which means there are other creators with Allah. LOL
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Oh, you are justifying Allah's mistakes with another falsehood about Mary being worshipped. LOL
Can u respond to Abu bakr saying muhammed was being worshipped in Bukhari:V5B59N733? Bukhari:V5B59N733 ..........if you used to worship Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead, but if anyone of you used to worship Allah, then Allah is alive and shall never die.......
But muslims of today still worship muhammed and they can kill if u mke muhammed's cartoon, Is muhammed the true god in islam?
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christianity, a pagan religion? Jesus never preached about christianity? are u sick? The true God didn't need to name any religion bcos God does not believe in religion but your righteousness. Satan could name islam to deceive many people away from the salvation created by God.
Allah is not God but satan. If muhammed was born a Muslim, how come Muhammed was circling the kaaba when it was filled with idols? Why only Muhammed knew about the kaaba that other Jewish prophets did not know
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if Yahweh is a pagan God, are you saying Yahya, Yahqub, ZachariYah are all pagans too since they have their names attached to Yahweh?
Also, what should we call Allah having his names attached to by idol worshipper like Abdullah?
Xmas started in the first century, how come Allah did not reject xmas? Xmas tree is not pagan, no hammer and nails on it according to the bible verse u brought up.
Explain why muslims copied ramadan, hajj, marwa and sarfa, stoning the devils from pagans?
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ISAIAH 9:6 "For there has been a CHILD BORN TO US... and his name will be called MIGHTY GOD!" Jesus is called Mighty God!
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Deut 18:19 is a great quote. I hope you take it to heart. Here's another one that puts it in context:
Jesus said "If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me" (Jhn 15:20-21)
Get it? There will be those who persecute Christians in Jesus' name. They will do this because they don't know God.
This is Islam
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You were answered on this question before. First let me repeat that your question demosntrates the primitive pagan notion held by Mohammedans that God is located in space and time, hence the question "If Jesus is here, where is God?" God is Eternal, beyond space and time. His Divine Nature in heaven, that state of being known as the Beatific Vision, being in His presence, is not subjected to the limitations of space and time.
Heaven is Eternity with God, not a brothel.
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muhammed himself said memorising of the quran runs away like a running camel. So, memorising the quran does nopt preserve it.
Yes, if we throw all the bible to the sea, we are going to retrieve it again, the volume of the bible is much more than the quran.
If muslims could memorise the quran, why couldn't muslims retrieve the portion eaten up by goats under aisha's bed?
Allah has no probklem with the many authors of the bible when Allah says in Q.80:13-16 about honoured scribes
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God himself became a Man and also says in mailaika 3:1 that he will become a Prophet of the covenant. So, Jesus on earth had a human nature and God's nature. Allah became a Man in Q.19:17, the man could talk and behave like a Man and at the same time, he can behave as Allah too.
Jesus on earth was both Man and God and equal with the father in heaven.
If Allah is the creator, What was the first thing Allah created in the universe? What was created first, Plants or Animals?
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The Qur'an's word on Mohammed's behavior is without any example, aside from the indications that Mohammed gets special privileges (See Q33:50. That Mohammed is quite a hunk of burnin' love, eh? ROFL).
So does the hadith that you prefer supercede the Q4:34: "As for those (women) from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them?" Why did AIsha say that she saw no women suffering from as much abuse as do Moslem women (Buk. 7:72:715)?
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Did Jesus uphold or break the Law, you ask? And I ask: Why do you bother asking? The context and the lesson in John 8:3-11 should be evident to anyone with an adult conscience.
The lesson is apropos today. Even today there are those who howl to see the punishment of the Law applied, but who are themselves not righteous before the Law. This is why Jesus tells us to internalize the Law: The Kingdom of God is within. To do so is to have a conscience.
Do you have a conscience?
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Timothy expresses his opinion here. Does it include beating women if they do not comply? Did Jesus beat women? What of the women taken in adultery:John 8:3-11? How does Jesus treat her?
We know that Mohammed prescribed beating women from Q4:34. We know that Mohammed himself beat women from Sahih Muslim 4:2127. Is this your "Good Message" LOL?
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If the Trinity is "false," why is it NOWHERE CONDEMNED in the "perfect" Qur'an?
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You are not a sheep, but a goat. That's why you cannot understand Jesus our Shepherd.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” ~Jesus (Rev. 1:8, 22:13)
Jesus said God was greater than Him because He spoke it in the role of the Son of Man & humbled Himself. Jesus' words in Mark 10:18 means: since no one is good except God alone, & you call me good, you should know that I am I am God." The Jews understood Him & took Him as a blasphemer.
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"If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread." ~Satan (Matt. 4:3)
"If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, 'He will command his angels concerning you, and, On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'" ~ Satan (Matt. 4:6)
"All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me." ~Satan (Matt. 4:9)
"All these in my luxury whorehouse paradise I will give you." ~Allah of Mohammed (quran 1-114)
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Quran promotes fables, like angels bowed down to Adam, Satan (Jinn) refused (S.2:30-34;7:11-12 etc)
That Jesus told Xtians Mother Mary is God, Sura 5:75 &116
Quran says Jesus was talking as newborn (S.19:27-33), created a clay bird & breathed life into it (S.3:49, S.5:110)
Quran says,the disciples & followers of Christ were Muslims (S.3:52 & S.5:111)
None of it is true in the Word of God (Proverbs 30:5-6)
Muhammad also tells Muslims to follow the Bible Q 5:44
Google:"alisina.o rg"&"myspear.o rg"
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Contradicted by:(a) "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend Exodus 33:11(b) 'And they (Moses, Aaron and seventy others) saw the God of Israel . ." EXODUS 24:10(c) "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved GENESIS 32:30 And as a special favour God shows his back parts to Moses "And I (God) will take away my hand and thou shalt see my back parts . . . " EXODUS33:23
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GOD: His contradictory attributes— (a) "No man hath seen God at any time John 1: 18 (b) " (God) whom no man hath seen, nor can see .,."I TIMOTHY 6:16 (c) "And he (God) said, Thou canst see my face: for there shall no man see me, and 1ive. EXODUS 33:20
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To all brothers, pls check this as stated in the bible that jesus is god n judge youself. God will show you the truth: GOD: Qualities ill-befitting God— (a) A hissing God (?) ISAIAH 5:26, 7: 18, ZECHARIA10:8(b) A "roaring" God (?) ISAIAH 42:13, JEREMIAH 25:30(c) A "barber" God (?) ISAIAH 7:20(d) A "penitent" God (?) JEREMIAH 15:6, GENESIS 6:6(e) A God "riding" a cherub (?) 2 SAMUEL 22:11(f) A God murders 50,070 for looking into a box (?) SAMUEL 6:19
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Why allah is not God.
- If allah is God , Adam was created by him, allah has to come down to earth from heaven and create Adam. The whole heaven will be in total darkness. This prove that allah IS NOT GOD.
- God is true trinity consists of three person, God the Father, Jesus, God the Holy Spirit. God the Father is always in heaven, heaven will not in darkness. God is the only light source in heaven. The Bible is correct said about God. all others books is fake and lies.Why allah is not God.
- if allah is God and want to create he has to come out of heaven and the whole heaven will be in darkness, allah has no partners or trinity. God is the only light source in heaven. allah cannot be God.
allah has no partners.
- cannot create
- cannot onmipresent
- his words will disappear after he had said, like human beings talking.
- his spirit cannot be present outside of him.
- has no power , his spirit cannot present outside.
- lower than animal
allah has no partners.
- cannot perform salvation for human beings, all humans will go to hell. There is no salvation in islam. God cannot take away all muslims' sins. Only God's blood can take away humans' sins.
muslims said allah can forgive sins, this is useless still can go to hell.
God forgive sins to humans so they can still live in this world but can still go to hell. Only God's blood can fully take away sins.
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Why muhammad cannot be the one in Deu 18:18
- The brethren cannot be outsider, must be from children of Israel only. Deu 17:15
- Jews was already scatter around the global during muhammad time, There is no use to send prophet.
- False prophet shall die for using God's name. Deu18:20 muhammad was poisoned to dead at the age 63.
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muhammad and allah is not in the Bible.
Deuteronomy 18:18 - prophet Samuel
Isaiah 29:11-12 - hypocrites
Song of Solomon 5:16 - Jesus
John 14:16 - The Comforter is the Holy Spirit John 14:26
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scientific error! Why you are so afraid to show those Bible verses.
Q 56:35 We are created.... allah is many gods, allah is bullshit.
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while the Hebrew still has muhammad mentioned!! (his name)!...
Song of Solomon 5:16 is this the verse. muhammad committed incest, if you refer muhammad to this verse. This verse refer to Jesus, who had said O daughters of Jerusalem in the Gospel.
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Why does the Bible mention at a lot of places that Jesus is not a god?....
Where did the Bible said Jesus is not God, can you show me the Bible verses.
The whole Bible is telling about Jesus and was written about Jesus. King David in OT called Jesus, Lord, Lord. All other prophets called Jesus Lord , Lord. The three wise men worshipped baby Jesus. Matthew 2:11. Christians called Jesus Saviour, Lord Lord, KING of KINGS, LORD of LORDS. almighty God.
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"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord,...
God is God of Israel, is not God of arab, why muslims like to copied from the Bible verses if you said the Bible is not true.
Jesus said I and my Father are one God. John 10:30
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God is born as man. Isaiah 9:6
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According to the book of Daniel?? Daniel 4:5 " when suddenly I had some horrifying DREAMS and visions. " 4:10" In my SLEEP I saw a very tall tree in the center of the world. " .... Hello mr. Zakir Naik...Nebuchadnezar talks about a DREAM and you conclude it is not scientivicly...duhhh.... a dream is a dream. In my dreams I fly. You totally miss the point of what is wants to say.
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now naik says the trinity is not in the bible. the word itself is not, but its definition is. In Matthew ch 28 18-20 Jesus states "I have been given all authority on heaven and on earth. so go out baptising men in the name of the father, the son and holy ghost". trinity right there. And besides, the thing i have to ask muslims is part of it admitted to be true in surah 2 vs 53 which says "we gave jesus son of mary veritable signs and strengthened him with the holy ghost"? seems odd.....
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What ever they say do not believe the muslims are trained and told that it is okay to lie to a non-believer. Their allah even says that he is the greatest deceiver read quran 3:54. Allah calls himself the greatest of schemers. Surah 3: "Allah is the best of all schemers."
And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers. 3:54
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i asked a christian about is there anywhere jesus called himself as god then he replied me with these verses.... i m a muslim bt i dnt know very much abt this....can anyone help me....plzz
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
John 13:13 "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and ye say well; for so I Am."
John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
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This is where the Qurain says the earth is flat, Sura Taha (20:53) Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.
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The Bible does not claim the earth is flat. Proverbs 8:27 When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep. Isa 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
The koran claims the earth is flat.
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Muhammad was NOT a prophet
#and I am ONLY a plain warner (wa-innama ana natheerun mubeenun)." S. 29:50
#Thou art a warner ONLY (innama anta munthirun), and for every folk a guide. S. 13:7
OPEN YOUR EYES NOW AND LOOK AT THE MESS THAT HE HAS LEFT BEHIND.
LEGACY OF HIS HOLOCAUST AGAINST Xtians & jews of Arabia
Google:"faithfreedom.o r g" if you want to justify Islam
Faithfreedom is NOT against Muslim but Islam
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SAID: FAGGOTS R TERRORIST
Muhammad said: "I have been made victorious with terror!" Sahih Bukhari 4:52:220
WHO IS THE FAGGOT NOW, heh!?
HITLER KILLED CHRISTIANS & JEWS
MUHAMMAD killed Jews & Christians
HITLER DIED AFTER EATING POISON
Muhammad died after eating poison
Aisha: The Prophet in his disease he died, used to say, O Aisha, I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar, & at this moment, I feel as if my aorta is cut from this poison. Bukhari 5:59:713
"alisina.o r g"
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JESUS IS SON OF GOD.here naik is quoting these lines which Jesus said as man as he was God In form of Man
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Dr zaik, another exaample of his lies; He says Jesus is not the son of God, in John 3:16 " 'begotten " was added, but he covers up the fact that , without " begotten it still says that Jesus is God's Only Son. " He gave his only son ". And the stupid audience, muslims and so-called Christians are eating it up, and even applauding. Zaik doesn't open the Bible when he speaks, he knows by heart what he's going to say, if he opens the Bible, he and others will see his lies.
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TheLubnakhan1 dies and goes to paradise. Once in paradise, he finds himself surrounded by 72 of the ugliest skanks anyone has ever laid eyes upon. A bemused Allah then says to him: "Why do you think they're still virgins?!"The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:
And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) (Maududi, vol.1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50) Sura 23:5-6 says:
5 [Most certainly true believers] guard their private parts scrupulously, 6 except with regard to their wives and those who are legally in their possession, for in that case they shall not be blameworthy.(Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi,The Meaning of the Quran, vol.
3, p. 237)
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Words of Jesus: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. " John 17:1-5
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Quran 76:19 And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
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Yes, MJ converted!! As for boys,
Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."
Quran 52:24 Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Quran 56:17 Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
I will convert to Islam when i have barely 1 month's time to survive on my death bed and surrender completely to the most merciful PIMP Allah!! Thats what even Michael Jackson did!! He converted to Islam barely 1 year before his death because he is promised unlimited hairless servant boys too!!
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The Allah that Muhammed is referring to in the Quran is nothing but Muhammed himself!!
Allah = Muhammed
Muhammed = Allah
Allah is FICTION and Muhammed is for REAL. He made a solid mockery out of the Arab dimwits whose brains dont work even today!! He got a cult status by making the Arabs worship him by pulling out his alter-ego Allah!!
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But he gives the strength of only 100 at a time. Imagine the time the remaining 373 148 virgins have to wait for their chance!!! Maybe, those virgins will end up being lesbians i suppose!!
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Why do you have a blind eye towards the following rules?
1.She has to bring 4 witness to prove a rape otherwise she will be charged with adultery.
2.She can not convert or marry to a non Muslim
3.He can marry up to 4 but she can marry only one.
4.Two woman witness= 1 man witness
5.He can say divorce three times and get ride of her but she can not.
6.He can beat a disobedient wife but she can not
7.To re marry a divorced husband, she has to marry another man then divorce first
But muhamad case , He just raped Zainab
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Jesus didn't say "I am God" exactly because He is humble and gave out clues in forms of parables. If you look at Revelations 1:8 and Revelations22:12-13, those passages clearly explains Jesus is God. You can also look at John 1:1-14, John 6:32-40, and John 8:23-24.
Like when When God appeared infront of Moses
Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM.He not said he was God
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But of course there exist proof of Jesus Christ born of a virgin, doing miracles, and dying on the cross outside of the Bible:
"And being beaten He shall be silent lest any one should know what the word is, or whence it came, that it may speak with mortals; and He shall wear the crown of thorns"- Sibylline Oracles (B.C. 184-117)
"At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous"-FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS (37 -- c.100 AD)
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JESUS CHRIST:
"The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee."-Jeremiah 31:3
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you"-John 13:34
allah:
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers"
Quran (4:74) - "Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
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MUHAMMADISM (ISLAM) TEACHES:
1,A MAN CAN BEAT HIS WIFE. CH.4:34
2,AMPUTATIONS OF LIMBS CH.5:38
3,MUHAMMADANS CAN HAVE 4 WIVES & ANY NO' OF SLAVE GIRLS CH.4:3
4,MUHAMMADANS ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE SEX WITH PREPUBESCENT GIRLS !!! CH.65.4
5,MUHAMMADANS CAN HAVE SEX WITH ALL THEIR PRISONERS OF WAR CH.33:50
6,A WOMANS TESTIMONY IS WORTH HALF OF A MANS CH.2:282
7,A WOMANS INHERITANCE IS WORTH HALF OF A MANS CH.4:11
8,A MUHAMMADAN CAN BE KILLED FOR CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY ETC.. CH.4:89
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"I said from the mouth of Jesus. You couldnt do it." Codex Sinaiticus, 350 AD (Greek): Luke 22:70: ειπαν δε παντεϲ ϲυ ουν ει ο υϲ του θυ ο δε προϲ αυτουϲ ε English: And they all said: Thou art then the Son of God? He said to them: You say it, for I am. -- There you go. God Bless.
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(John 10:36)
"..what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?"
Jesus said that there is a Son that was set apart as His very own. Jesus was virgin born. So who was the Father? God was. Jesus is divine!
Hebrews 1:6
"And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."
God says that He has His very own Son, that he set apart and sent ino the World.
All angels must worshp Jesus.
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Only Muhammad disagreed with all previous prophets before him that Messiah Jesus was not crucified nor killed (S 4:157). Do you disagree with Muhammad or not? Yes or No?
If yes, then your Muhammad is a false prophet.
If no, then you are no longer fit to be called a Muslim because by definition, Muslim is a person who believe that Muhammad is a prophet of God and also to believe in all the Prophets before him, and to submit to one God.
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"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Romans 10:9
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"..Muhammad said to the masses: "Convert or die!"..
Die your hair? First of all it's "dye" and saying that shows how illogical and stupid you are, and how desperate you are to try and degrade Jesus.
It actually made me laugh.. seriously.
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Matthew 4:3-4
The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." 4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'[a]"
Jesus didn't say, "You are wrong, I am not the Son of God!" He just refused to do what Satan said.
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Sura 113 says that Muhammad takes refuge in Allah. Thus, he appears insecure and even fearful of dark powers. Granted, he is only human, so maybe he had no choice. He does not seem to have enough spiritual authority to rebuke Satan with his words alone.
But Jesus could rebuke Satan/demons/witchcraft with His words alone.
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Jesus pronounced that Muhammad is a false prophet.
"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."
(John 10:10)
What did Muhammad do?
Mohammed ordered death to the Jews (see A. Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], p. 369)
Muhammad said women are allowed into heaven if they are able to sexually satisfy their husbands.
Muhammad said to kill, fight, etc.
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Mohammed was the prophet of war; Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7).
Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7).
Mohammed promoted persecution against the "infidels"; Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1 Timothy 1:13-15).
Mohammed was the taker of life; Christ was the giver of life (John 10:27-28).
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Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many (compare John 12:48).
Mohammed's method was COMPULSION; Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).
Mohammed practiced FORCE; Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29, 35).
Mohammed was a WARRIOR; Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians1:10).
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Mohammed conquered his enemies with the sword; Christ conquered his enemies with another kind of sword, the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12; Acts 2:37).
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Mohammed said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).
Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Romans 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Ephesians 1:7).
Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).
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Mohammed declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels; Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Colossians 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).
Mohammed constrained people by conquest; Christ constrained people by love (2 Corinthians 5:14).
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Modern terrorists derive their inspiration from Mohammed and carry out their despicable atrocities in the name of his god; Christians derive their inspiration from the One who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9)
Modern day disciples of Mohammed respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets; Modern day disciples of Christ are deeply grieved at past atrocities carried out by those who were "Christians" in name only (the Crusades, etc.)
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The Muslim looks forward to eternity in Paradise where there will be virgins who are used for eternal perpetual copulation.
The Bible believing Christian looks forward to being with Jesus Christ and is delighted with that. (2 Corinthians 5:8).
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Mohammed said the witness of a woman was half the value of the witness of a man; and Muhammed said a woman goes to Paradise because she satisfies her husband sexually; The Bible teaches that a husband is to love his wife and be willing to die for her. (Ephesians 5:25).
Mohammed called upon his servants to fight; Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world; if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight . . . but now is My kingdom not from hence" (John 18:36).
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The Koran says, "Fight in the cause of Allah" (Qu'ran 2.244); The Bible says, "we wrestle not against flesh and blood" and "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal" (Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 10:4).
The Koran says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (Qu'ran 9.5); Christ said, "Preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).
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The Koran (Qu'ran) is a terrorist manual which condones fighting, conflict, terror, slaughter, and genocide against those who do not accept Islam; The Bible is a missionary manual to spread the gospel of peace to all the world (Romans 10:15).
Mohammed's Mission was to conquer the world for Allah; Christ's mission was to conquer sin's penalty and power by substitutionary atonement (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18).
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Mohammed considered Christ a good prophet; Christ pronounced (in His statement on many false prophets arising) Mohammed to be a false prophet (John 10:10; Matthew 24:11).
Mohammed claimed that there was but one God, Allah; Christ claimed that He was God (John 10:30-31; John 8:58-59; John 5:18; John 14:9).
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Because the one doesn't exclude the other.
Jesus is not God the Father, but His Son!
The Son wich the Allmighty refered to as "GOD" (Psalms 45:7-8)
and Jesus Himself stated:
"Before Abraham was, I AM" = YAHWEH (John 8:58)
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Abdullah ibn Sa'd was a former scribe of Mohammed who apostasized after he realized that Mohammed would accept his suggestions as to what words should be used to conclude a "revelation." This meant that Abdullah was a potential threat to Mohammed's reputation as a "prophet" which resulted in Abdullah being put on Mo's liquidation list after the conquest of Mecca. So much for Mo being kind or forgiving, LOL!
So who wrote the Qur'an?
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Explain why arab pagans used to circle the kaaba before Muhammed copied this from the pagans?
Do u know that ramadan was before Muhammed? Why did Muhammed copied it from the pagans?
Zamzam well was dug by Abd Al mutalib, a pagan, why did muhammed lied it was the same spring seen by haggai?
Why did Muhammed venerate a graven image aka Black stone? why Muslims kiss that stone like the pagans?
If Abraham built the kaaba, why Only Muhammed knew this but unknown to the Jewish prophets?
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But wait a minute. No christian ever say God has a biological son. Begotten as use by the bible is about God's manifestation into flesh through spiritual creation.
It is the quran that talks about sex in order to conceive Jesus. Q.21:91 And Mary who guarded Her Vagina(Farjaha) and We breathed into it Our Spirit
If your islamic translators were honest, why did they lie that Farjaha in arabic is chastity when we actually know farj is Vagina and Farjaha means Her Vagina. LOL
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LOL!! Show me in your quran where the father, son and Holy spirit are condemned?
John 5:7 is a translations, this verse exist in greek and Latin manuscript before islam existed in the 7th century.
Psalms 110:1 The Lord says toMy Lord, sit on my right hand side......
Did the Jews corrupt the bible to satisfy the christians trinity concept here?
Muslims claim Allah is one, Tell me who is the other creator with Allah?
Q.37:125 Will ye call Upon Baal and FORSAKE THE BEST OF CREATORS
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Thank u for this verse. This is a warning from Moses that nobody should corrupt the Bible. If the bible was corrupt, Why then Allah confirmed the bible in Q.5:48? Was the bible Corrupted After Muhammed? How could the bible in circulation be corrupted at the same time?
Why did Allah tell Muhammed in Q.10:94 to seek help from the Judeochristians scripture if he is in doubt of the quran? Was Allah recommending a corrupt bible to muhammed?
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Where is the salvation in islam? What can i do not to enter hell in islam?
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Hmmm, if the Quran is a manual for all mankind, How come your quran says Earth is flat?
What did Allah create first, Plants or Animals?
How did Allah create Eve?
Show me where Jesus say a book that will remain with u forever.
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Show me specifically where Allah says dont say the father, son and the holy spirit? Allah kept on saying dont take God, Jesus and Mary as God and this is not christians belief. It could be Allah mistook christians belief to something else.
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The true claim The first claim agrees with scripture. Jesus was indeed God in the flesh. See John 1:1-5, 14 and Colossians 2:15-18 for this evidence. The false claim The second assertion does not agree with scripture. Twice the writer of Hebrews indicated that Jesus was tempted. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted (Hebrews 2:18).
Was Jesus Tempted? Some assert that Jesus could not be tempted by citing the following passage: Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone (James 1:13).
Two claims Two claims are given to support the above conclusion: 1. Jesus was God in the flesh. 2. Since God cannot be tempted, Jesus was immune to temptation.
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For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin (Hebrews 4:15). Conclusion Jesus was tempted by Satan, and was in fact tempted in all the ways that we are tempted today. Yet He did not sin. One reason Jesus is our perfect high priest is because he can sympathize with us. He knows how it felt to be tempted.
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The Father cannot be tested. Jesus is God in the flesh, and the flesh can be tempted. He became one of us in the form of Jesus and he did this to show that His Spirit is stronger than the flesh. That is why he said "I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.”
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Hi man. You forgot that Jesus was fully God and fully man at the same time. He was tempted, yet without sin.
He became sin on our behalf and died on the cross for our sins & not only died, but also was CRUSHED by a full cup of WRATH OF GOD.
Jesus rose on the third day and reigns now and forever. I hope that you too my friend shall repent and believe the Gospel.
Do not harden your heart for the word of truth, for tomorrow it might be too late. God save you!
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Who says "CHRISTIANS RUN INTO TROUBLE PROVING THE DEITY OF JESUS"?You fabricated John.Jesus "CLEARLY" claimed His Deity.God's Word was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. What Muhammad produced in the Qur'an is simply a book of gibberish consisting of later evil verses abrogating (superseding) earlier peaceful verses. These verses in Arabic poetically "tickle" the ears of Arab listeners. ISLAM iS A CAUSTIC BLEND OF PAGANISM AND TWISTED BIBLE STORIES. Thats EXACTLY what ur doing!
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According to the quran (and bible) the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and follows its orbit on a straight path.
The sun does not rise in the east.
The sun does not set in the west.
The sun does not move at all.
oh btw .. I love Bin Laden!
Jesus himself call himself Man and God at the same time.
Luke 6:5 The son of man is the Lord of the sabbath
LOL
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The story of Abdullah bin Sa'd, Mohammed's disillusioned scribe, has an interesting conclusion. He is brought before Mo and begs for his life and his foster brother, Uthman ibn Affan does likewise. His life is spared only because Mo felt it undignified to give the sign to his bully boys!
So who "standardized" the Qur'an? It was the disillusioned scribe's brother, Uthman the third caliph. Yet of the seven recitations of the Qur'an, only one now exists!
Who wrote the Qur'an?
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Who wrote the Qur'an? Was it Mr. Allah himself? If so, let's see his handwriting! Or was it the entity Jibreel? Likewise, let's see his handwriting! Or was it Mohammed? Ooops! Mohammed was illiterate, so he had to depend on scribes. One of these was Abdullah bin Sa'd. When Mo conquered Mecca, Abdullah was on the list of Mo's political enemies to be liquidated. Abdullah's crime? He apostasized when Mo accepted his suggestions for certain verses!
So who wrote the Qur'an, ROFL?
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I am sorry my friend but what you are saying is a misinterpretation of what the Bible was saying. The Bible speaks of Christ being tempted as an act of someone else not that he felt temptation. You said it yourself when you quoted Hebrew 4:15 saying "He was tested in every way yet did not sin." That means an attempt to tempt him was made yet he felt no temptation because he is God & cannot sin. He could not even think of being corrupted for the thought alone is sin.
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allah became the word for god in several languages arabic, indonesian, malayan.....
They are catholic, not christian . Christians' God is Jesus.
Jesus called Mary , daughter. Song of Solomon 5:16, Luke 23:28.
There is no ellah called God in the Bible!
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Jesus foretold his death and resurrection(Mark 8:31-38),then again a second time(mark 9:30-32),then a third time(Mark 10:32-34).He then died upon the cross(Mark 15:21-41),and rose again,just as He said(Mark 16:1-8)!Why did he do it?All for love(John 3:16/Romans 5:8)!
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The message muhammed preached the same with Jesus and moses? Tell me or show me where Jesus and Moses say it's ok to bow down to kaaba in mecca, or to travel for hajj?
Show me where Jesus and moses say we should throw stones at the devil or kiss the black stone or venerate zamzam well?
Why is it that only Muhammed knew about the kaaba? Why was it not mentioned by any Jewish prophets?
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Simple Question, God himself clearly said in Mailaika 3:1 that He is Jesus, the Lord, the prophet of the covenant.
So, open your eyes, there is no other gods beside God almighty, God became a Man called Jesus, there is no three gods in christianity, there is only one God that has a spirit and became a man and these three are divine.
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Jesus Christ 0-33 A.D. was YHWH's manifestation through YHM in human form, YHM is from before creation. He is the First and the Last (Re 1:8,17).
the difference with brahman, buddha and muhammed is: they are all dead and YHM is Alive!
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Actually allah was a normal name for a man originally derived of the aramaic word for god Ellah,
the moongod is called allah, allah became the word for god in several languages arabic, indonesian, malayan.
but it is only a god-title it is not a god name. (like Elohim, Dieu,Gott, Dios, Deus, Iddio or Theos).
You are right that there was a lot of copying and confusion going on because they accept(ed) angelical words
that are not according to the WORD and SPIRIT.
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muslims copied Moses's law from the Bible, Jesus abolished them.
muslims copied allah from idolator pagan arab idol and copied one God from the Bible. Deu 6:4
muslims copied people names from the Bible : Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Noah........etc.
What did muslims did't copied : 72 virgins in paradise for sex - this is stupid laughing stock.
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Coming from a Mohammedan, this statement is very rich indeed.
Mohammedism oppresses non-Mohammedans through the institution of Shariah. Non-Mohammedans are regularly beaten, cheated, raped and murdered in Mohammedan lands such a Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq and --increasingly-- in Malaysia and Indonesia.
Perhaps what you really object to is that there are those who understand that Mohammedism offers nothing for humanity.
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YHM would address you as a pharisee, you trust in works of the law
no one can justifies him/herself there is only salvation in YHWH through YHM lead tby the Ruach YHWH
under the Kabod YHWH surrrounded by the Malak YHWH.
Ma 6 is way before Ma 26, 27 and 28 last time i checked; vous etes tres ignorant!
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You don't get it do you? The old testament was fulfilled in the N.T.
Why not the gospels of peter, paul, judas, barnabas?
"we gave moses the book" (surah 1:55) question: which book?
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47:24 Muhsin Khan
Do they not then think deeply in the Quran, or are their hearts locked up (from understanding it)?
4:82 Muhsin Khan
Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.
Yes, we have established and understand that your qurans and hadiths have many errors.
All of you muslims will agree that the quran is 100% the words of allah. As sira 53 reveals
allah to be satan, you muslims draw a blank. And without a thought, dismiss or hide the fact that you serve satan.
Ezekiel 18:20, is talking about personal sin, not original. It's talking about sin that condemns the soul. It's amazing how shallow and single minded the muslim brain is. You are claiming Bukari is false then, not to mention Adam and Moses hanging out having a conversation. Adam, Moses, Muhd and allah all agreed on Adam causing all men to suffer for what he was predestined to do. But, the simple mind of wta1 can't comprehend it. So you disregard it.
I showed you the difference (briefly) between death of all flesh, and death of the soul. And through Adam all men die. Through YESHUA, whomsoever will, receives Life.
Did you not understand my response to your original sin argument. Of course you didn't.
You probably didn't read it.
As a matter of fact, you muslims try to pick and choose (from the Bible and quran) what you like and what you don't like. There are many peoples in many religions that do that. We call them Hypocrites. They are rebellious and lawless and are in error and will die in their sins. Are you predestined to burn in hell? Or do we all have a choice?
Bukari 55: 549
Talks about the distance between you and Heaven is a ARM.
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 549....
He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion). Then the soul is breathed into his body. So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise. Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) Fire and enters the (Hell) Fire."
YOUR DESTINY IS DECIDED BY AN ~ANGEL~ SURA 53 REVEALS THE AUTHOR OF THE QURAN TO BE THE FALLEN ANGEL SATAN!
ARE YOU SLAVE TO SATAN?
17:62 Muhsin Khan
[Iblis (Satan)] said: "See? This one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite (keep me alive) to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring (by sending them astray) all but a few!"
ISLAM, THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD. THE ONLY PREREQUISITE IS TO DENY CHRIST IS WHO HE SAID HE IS.
4:123 Muhsin Khan
.... whosoever works evil, will have the recompense thereof, and he will not find any protector or helper besides Allah.
ALLAH ( SATAN) IS THE PROTECTOR AND HELPER OF THOSE THAT DO EVIL!
WHO'S 100% THE AUTHOR OF QURAN? SATAN IS REVEALED AUTHOR OF THE QURAN IN SURA 53.
ETC, ETC, ETC,
THERE'S SO MANY MORE. YOU MUSLIMS SERVE SATAN. ISLAM IS THE END TIME BEAST, PROPHESIED BY IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL AND REVELATION.
BUT YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE LIARS AND DECEIVERS.
Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
WE KNOW THE DRAGAN IS SATAN, THE BEAST IS ISLAM :)
You said, Yes, the quran is 100% the words of allah.
We find the author of the quran revealed in sura 53, to be satan.
So, you are worshiping and following satan as, sura 53 are words of satan.
You already agreed with me on this, so no point in posting the verses.
AGAIN, JESUS IS GOD!
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Re: 02). Christians !! YOU HAVE >E V E R Y T H I N G< TO STAND ON !!!
Shalom,
Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
JESUS SAYING HE IS GOD...
Jhn 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Jhn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jhn 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
hn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
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worthyisthelamb247
Re: 02). Christians !! YOU HAVE >E V E R Y T H I N G< TO STAND ON !!!
Shalom Dazed,
Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
JESUS SAID ONLY GOD WAS GOOD. SO HE IS SAYING THAT HE IS "GOD THE SHEPHERD".
Psa 23:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD [is] my shepherd; I shall not want.
Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
Psa 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Psa 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
GOD BLESS YOU WITH UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE OF HIS TRUTH
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worthyisthelamb247
Re: 02). Christians !! YOU HAVE >E V E R Y T H I N G< TO STAND ON !!!
Shalom Dazed,
Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
JESUS SAID ONLY GOD WAS GOOD. SO HE IS SAYING THAT HE IS "GOD THE SHEPHERD".
Psa 23:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD [is] my shepherd; I shall not want.
WHAT DID JESUS SAY?
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Jhn 10:11 ( I AM GOD... GOD GIVES HIS LIFE FOR THE SHEEP.)
Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Jhn 10:17 ( JESUS GIVES HIS LIFE FOR THE SHEEP, JESUS RAISES HIMSELF UP AGAIN.)
Jhn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
GOD BLESS YOU WITH UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE OF HIS TRUTH
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worthyisthelamb247
Re: 02). Christians !! YOU HAVE >E V E R Y T H I N G< TO STAND ON !!!
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
DID YOU SEE IT?
GOD THE FATHER WAS PIERCED!
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
Zec 12:10...and they shall look upon me (GOD) whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him (YESHUA = 1) salvation, deliverance)
Strong's H3444 - yĕshuw`ah
1) salvation, deliverance, c) salvation (by God)
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
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Re: 02). Christians !! YOU HAVE >E V E R Y T H I N G< TO STAND ON !!!
2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Isa 43:7 [Even] every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Isa 63:5 And I looked, and [there was] none to help; and I wondered that [there was] none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
Isa 40:10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong [hand], and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward [is] with him, and his work before him.
Isa 40:11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry [them] in his bosom, [and] shall gently lead those that are with young.
Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.
Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Isa 40:5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see [it] together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
Isa 43:7 [Even] every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Act 11:26 ...And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
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Shalom brother and sisters,
Here's another one
I was on a roll, I had more, but I got angry, and lost inspiration.
Isa 40:10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong [hand], and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward [is] with him, and his work before him.
Isa 40:10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come.... with strong [hand] (with the MIGHTY ONE aka JESUS CHRIST)
( GOD THE FATHER WILL COME WITH GOD THE SON :)
Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one
Isa 40:11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry [them] in his bosom, [and] shall gently lead those that are with young.
Jesus is GOD.
Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
THERE YOU HAVE IT. ALL SCRIPTURE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT THAT SPEAKS OF ETERNAL LIFE SPEAKS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.
Agape and Shalom, may GOD ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU WITH HIS TRUTH, IN THE BLESSED NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
David
Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
JESUS IS LORD,
Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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[Surah 4:119] "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.
[Surah 13:27] The Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Truly Allah leaveth, to stray, whom He will; But He guideth to Himself those who turn to Him in penitence,-
[Surah 16:93] If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions.
[Surah 35:8] Is he, then, to whom the evil of his conduct is made alluring, so that he looks upon it as good, (equal to one who is rightly guided)? For Allah leaves to stray whom He wills, and guides whom He wills. So let not thy soul go out in (vainly) sighing after them: for Allah knows well all that they do!
[Surah 2:7] Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
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A MESSAGE TO MUSLIM BROTHERS/SISTERS:
In the Zoroastrian book "Arda Viraf Namag", written during the reign of Sassanid king Ardashir Babagan (226-240 AD), the Zoroastrian priest Arda Viraf described his journey into sky to meet his deity.
Accompanied by an archangel Bahman, he journeyed through different levels of heavens and hells and crossed chinvat-bridge ( the sirat ) before finally reaching his deity "ahura mazda", sitting on the throne in 7th heaven.
Few hundred years later, in 7th century AD., Muhammad claimed to have made the similar journey into sky on a white horse to meet his deity. He too was accompanied by an archangel Gabriel. He too journeyed through different levels of heavens and hells and crossed the bridge ( the sirat ) before finally reaching his deity sitting on the throne in 7th heaven.
Muhammad added the horse and his encounter with the other so called prophets to embelish the story and make it look different.
think critically
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islamic armies came from the desert of arabia and grabbed roman lands, persian lands, african lands, indian lands, afghani lands, destroyed their culture and their language, and forced arabic language and dark idealogy of islam on locals.
even to this day people are mentally retarded in these countries thanks to islam.
Muhammad was obsessed with being called " ya rasul allah". He slaughtered 100s of 1000s innocent pagans, and allowed his men to take female captives of war as booty and rape them in order to force pagans to accept him as a prophet. He also brainwashed his followers into such retards that even to this day they can not think straight.
Muhammad in his last sermon said ," clothe and feed your women if they obey you".
it is like treating women as domestic animals. Feed them, if they obey you.
secular laws say women are our equal partners and soul mates.
Who would you follow?
in the book "101 myths of the bible", greenberg proved that biblical stories had their origins in egyptian mythology. Christians and muslims later plagiarized the very same mythical stories into their so called holy books.
THINK CRITICALLY.
sunan abu dawud
Book 38, Number 4349:
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.
sunan abu daud:
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 370:
Narrated Al-Bara bin Azib:
Allah's Apostle sent a group of persons to Abu Rafi. Abdullah bin Atik entered his house at night, while he was sleeping, and killed him.
Where is the salvation in islam? What can i do not to enter hell in islam?
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When the apostle heard what asma binte marwan had said he said, "Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?" `Umayr b. `Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he said, "You have helped God and His apostle, O `Umayr!" When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, "Two goats won't butt their heads about her," so `Umayr went back to his people.
A message to muslim brothers/sister:
The jewish poetess, Asma binte marwan, wrote a poem to denounce the murder of poet Abu afaq at the hands of muhammad's assassins. muhammad in response asked his followers," who would get me rid of this daughter of marwan". Omair ibn aadi swore to take care of her. He entered her tent in the night and plunged the knife in asma's chest, while she was sleeping surrounded by her kids. one of the kids was even sucking on the breast.
muhammad showed pleasure hearing the news of asma's murder next morning and congratulated assassin for the great deed he had done in the cause of Allah, the most merciful.
According to Ibn ishaq islam became powerful that day and all the members of Asma's family accepted islam ( sirat rasul allah, page # 675, by ibn ishaq, printed in PAKISTAN ).
A message to muslim brothers and sisters:
umm qirfa ( fatima d. rabia b. badar ) of the tribe banu fazara from wadi' al-qura was a very respected elderly woman, but She was opposed to muhammad's claim of prophethood.
Muhammad also did not like fact that a woman could be the head of the clan, so he sent his adopted son, Zayed bin Harith, to take care of her. Zayed ambushed her clan, slaughtered most the clan's members and took her as a prisoner.
Commander zayed then ordered Qays B. Al-musahhar to kill her crually.
Qays tied her leg and arm on each side to a camel and drove both camels in opposite direction, therby tearing her body apart.
Her severed head was carried to medina and paraded on the streets there on the orders of Muhammad as a warning to the people that islam does not approve a woman as a clan chief.
"sirat rasul allah" / page 664-665, by ibn ishaq, printed in Pakistan.
THINK CRITICALLY
Yahaim wrote:
dont stop there Jews,dont make yor own interpretation of the hadith,for everyone's sake it should read:Bukhari:V4B56N814
"There was a Christian who embraced Islam and he used to write the revelations for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again he used to say:‘Mohammad knows nothing but what I have written for him.'"
This verse could confirm he was a self-declared prophet, an impostor.
FAKE AND IMPOSTOR WAS MOHAMMED AND MUSLIMS WILL SPIT ON HIS GRAVE.
Islam is one huge scam created to enslave people to lies and false surahs.
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground).
only god forsaken people would ridicule another religion for his/her selfish cause!and thats Yahaim
The Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Book 041 (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa'ah), Number 6985, states:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
SEE? THERE IS NOT BUT ONE SINGLE TRUE STATEMENT IN THE QURAN AND THAT WAS WHEN THE PEOPLE OF NOAH SAID THAT MOHAMMED WAS A LIAR AND WAS INSANE IN SURA 54:2-9... THE QURAN READS LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN BY A 5 YEAR OLD..... ALL LIES.... NO TRUTH
Which makes one wonder.
Few questions to Muslims.
1. I'm Jewish. I don't believe in the Qur'an or Prophet Muhammad. Do I belong in hell?
2. I'm a woman, but get out of the house alone and without Hijab. DO I belong in hell?
3. I don't believe that the reason for my existence is only give birth and follow the man blindly- do I belong in Hell?
4. I'm Israeli- DO I BELONG INS HELL??
5. I don't wish for SHariah law as something to live by- DO I BELONG IN HELL???
Quran- Word of God or Muhammad ?
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This article is mainly focused to show that when we read some of the verses in Quran, we clearly understand that those were Muhammad's own word, not Allah's.
According to the Muslims the Quran contains the words of God. Quran is to be read as if God Himself had spoken these words stated in it. It is important to emphasize this point because if Quran is the word of God then it should not contain any errors and it should hold true for all times. However, such is not the case.
He we will see how some of the content of the verses in the Quran clearly shows that these words were obviously spoken by Muhammad and Not God.
Let's start with the opening Sura of Quran.
The Opening Sura Fatihah:
(Quran 1:1-7)
In the name of the Merciful and Compassionate God.
Praise belongs to God,
The Lord of the worlds, the merciful, the
compassionate, the ruler of the day of
the day of judgment! Thee we serve and Thee
we ask for aid. Guide us in the right path,
the path of those Thou art gracious to;
not to those Thou art wroth with, nor of
those who err.
Someone need not be a rocket-scientist to comprehend that these words are clearly addressed to God, in the form of a prayer. They are Muhammad's words of praise to God ("Guide us in the right path,..." ~ 001.006), asking for God's help and guidance. Some Muslim compilers conveniently add the imperative "say" in the English translation of the Quran at the beginning of the sura to remove this difficulty. This imperative form of the word "say" occurs at least 350 times in the Quran, and its obvious that this word has, in fact, been inserted by later compilers of the Quran to remove countless similarly embarrassing difficulties. Thus, we have direct evidence that the Quran starts out with the words of Muhammad.
Let us see some other examples in Quran:
(Quran 113:1)
I take refuge with the Lord of the Dawn.
One can clearly see, its Muhammad and NOT GOD HIMSELF who is seeking refuge in God.
(Quran 6:104)
Now have come to you, from your Lord, proofs
(To open your eyes): If any will see, it will
be for (the good of) his own soul; If any will
be blind, it will be to his own (harm): I am not
(here) To watch over your doings.
In this verse the speaker of the line "I am not to watch over your doings"- is clearly Muhammad. In fact Dawood in his translation adds a footnote that the "I" refers to Muhammad here. And in previous verse (Quran 6:103) it is stated - 'No mortal eyes can see Him, though He sees all eyes. He is benignant all knowing'. R. Bell said in his "A commentary on the Quran (Manchester, England: Victoria university of Manchester, 1991) vol. 1. p. 201 '- The end of the verse shows that Phrophet is speaking his own words'.
(Quran 27:91)
For me, I have been commanded to serve the
Lord of this city, Him Who has sanctified it
and to whom (Belong) all things; and I am
commanded to be of those who bow in Islam to
Allah's Will
Again, the speaker here is clearly Muhammad who is trying to justify puning the Meccans who were not willing to follow Muhammad's Islamic version of God. Dawood and Pickthall both interpolate "say" at the beginning of the sentence which is lacking in the original Arabic version of the sura.
(Quran 81:15)
So verily I call to witness the planets - that recede...
Again, here it is Muhammad and NOT God who is swearing by the turning planets.
(Quran 84:16-19)
I swear by the afterglow of sunset, and by the night, and by the moon when she is at the full.
Once again it is Muhammad and NOT God. He is unable to disguise his pagan heritage. (Omnipotent Allah should not swear, right?)Muhammad swears again in the name of the Sun and Moon, both of which were considered as holy deities by pre-Islamic Arabs. (Dear Readers, have you noticed that YUSUFALI cleverly escaped the word "swear" while making the translation, but PICKTHAL and SHAKIR used it).
(Quran 6:114)
Should I seek other judge than God, when
it is He who has sent down to you, the
distinguishing book (Quran)?
Any sane person can comprehend that those words are not spoken by God but Mohammed himself. Yusuf Ali in his translation adds at the beginning of the sentence "say", which is not there in the original Arabic and he does so without comment or footnote.
Do we need to give any other further evidence that Quran actually contains the words of Muhammad, not Allah ! Interested readers, may also check sura 19:9, 19:64, 37:164-166, 51:50, 53:2, 70:40-41, 86:17 to understand that those can be uttered by anybody but Allah.
Reading above passages, researchers R. Bell and W. M. Watt who were more sympathetic towards Islam admitted :
'The assumption that God is himself the speaker in every passage, however leads to difficulties. Frequently God is referred to third person. It is no doubt allowable for a speaker to refer to himself in third person occasionally, but the extent to which we find the Prophet apparently being addressed and told about God as a third person is unusual. It is in fact been made a matter ridicule that in the Quran God is made to swear by himself.'
Also Suyuti, one of the great muslim philologist and commentator on Quran was able to point to the five passages whose attribution to the God was disputable. Indeed he admitted that some of the words in some verses were obviously spoken by Muhammad himself and some by Gabriel. Ali Dashti, in his famous book, '23 years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad' also points to several passages from Quran where the speaker cannot have been God.
References:
Ibn Warraq, Why I Am Not a Muslim, Prometheus Books, 2003
R. Bell, and W. M. Watt, Introduction to the Quran, Edinburgh, 1977
Ali Dashti, Twenty Three Years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad, Mazda Pub, 1994
"Is the Qur'an the Word of God?" - Part 1
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A: Introduction
In August of 1995 I was invited to debate the motion, "Is the Qur'an the Word of God?" with Dr. Jamal Badawi. The debate took place at Trinity College, Cambridge, and after our papers had been presented the debate was opened to the floor for an hour of questions from both the Muslims and Christians present. Below is the content of the paper which I gave at the debate, as well as further material which I used in the question and answer period, and further data which has come out since the time of the debate. Because of the interest shown in the topic, we have put this paper along with ten other apologetical papers, and certain Muslim rebuttals to the material, as well as a number of the popular 99 Truth Tracts on a web-site, on the internet (please use the following call number to access them:http://www.domini.org/debate/home.htm). Our hope is that with the material on this web-site the debate can continue around the world, and help to enliven the dialogue already begun by the Cambridge debate.(Note: I have tried to footnote those statements which could prove to be contentious, or which would stimulate the readers to look for further data. I have used the Harvard model, which commences with the author's name, followed by the date of publication, and page number). Let us then begin our study.
Islam claims that the Qur'an is not only God's Word, but that it is the final revelation given to humanity. It comes from the "Mother of all books" according to sura 43:2-4. Muslims maintain that the Qur'an is an exact word-for-word copy of God's final revelation which is found on the original tablets that have always existed in heaven. They point to sura 85:21-22 which says, "Nay this is a glorious Qur'an, (inscribed) in a tablet preserved." Islamic scholars contend that this passage refers to the tablets which were never created. They believe that the Qur'an is an identical copy of the eternal heavenly book, even so far as the punctuation, titles and divisions of chapters are concerned.
According to Muslim tradition, these revelations' began to be sent down (Tanzil or Nazil) (sura 17:85), to the lowest of the seven heavens in the month of Ramadan, during the night of power or destiny (lailat al Qadr) (Pfander, 1910:262). From there they were revealed to Muhammad in installments, as need arose, via the angel Gabriel (sura 25:32). Consequently, every letter and every word is free from any human influence, which gives the Qur'an an aura of authority, even holiness, and with such, its integrity.
Most westerners have accepted these claims from Muslims at face value. They have never had the ability to argue their veracity, because the claims could neither be proved nor disproved, as their authority was derived solely from the Qur'an itself (dispelling any attempt to wrest from the pages of the Bible fulfilled prophecies of Deuteronomy 18, John 14, 16; and perhaps others).
There has also been a reticence to question the Qur'an and the prophet due to the adverse response directed upon those who were brave enough to attempt it in the past. The fact is that for too long westerners have been content to assume that the Muslims had evidence and data to substantiate their claims.
It is only now, as secular scholars of Islam (known as "Orientalists") re-examine the Islamic sources, that evidence is being uncovered which puts into question much of what we have been led to believe concerning Muhammad and his revelation,' the Qur'an.
The findings of these scholars indicate that the Qur'an was not revealed to just one man, but was a compilation of later redactions (or editions) formulated by a group of men, over the course of a few hundred years (Rippin 1985:155; and 1990:3,25, 60). In other words, the Qur'an which we read today is not that which was in existence in the mid-seventh century, but was more than likely a product of the eighth and ninth centuries (Wansbrough 1977:160-163). It was at this time, the Orientalists say, particularly in the ninth century, that Islam took on its classical identity and became that which is recognizable today. Consequently, the formative stage of Islam, they contend, was not within the lifetime of Muhammad but evolved over a period of 200-300 years (Humphreys 1991:71, 83-89).
Source material for this period, however, is sparse. Essentially the only sources which had been available to the historians were Muslim sources. What is more, outside the Qur'an,' the sources are all late. Prior to 750 A.D. we have no verifiable Muslim documents which can give us a window into this formative period of Islam (Wansbrough 1978:58-59). Nothing exists with which to corroborate Muslim Tradition' material (that is, Islamic history based on their traditions). Later documents simply draw upon earlier documents, which no longer exist today (if indeed they existed at all) (Crone 1987:225-226; Humphreys 1991:73). This classical period (around 800 A.D.) describes the earlier period, but from its own viewpoint, much like an adult, writing about their childhood will tend to remember those areas which were pleasant. Thus, the account is coloured, and biased, and as such cannot be accepted as authentic by historical scholars (refer to Crone's studies on the problems of the traditions,' especially those which were dependent on local storytellers, in Meccan Trade....1987, pp.203-230 and Slaves on Horses, 1980, pp. 3-17).
Consequently, the demarcation line between what the historian will accept and that which Muslim Traditions maintain is growing further apart for the following reasons: Islam, according to orthodox Muslim scholars, gives complete credence to divine intervention for its revelation. Muslim Tradition asserts that Allah sent down his revelation to Muhammad via the angel Gabriel (Jibril) over a period of twenty-two years (610-632 A.D.), in which time many of the laws and traditions which delineate that which we define as Islam were formulated and worked out.
Yet it is this scenario which secular historians are balking at today, as it presupposes that in the early seventh century, Islam, a religion of immense sophistication, of intricate laws and traditions was formulated in a backward' nomadic culture and became fully functional in only twenty two years.
The Hijaz (central Arabia) before that time was hardly known in the civilized world. Even the later traditions refer to this period as Jahiliyya (or period of ignorance, implying its backwardness). Arabia before Muhammad did not have an urbanized culture, nor could it boast a sophisticated infrastructure needed to create, let alone maintain the scenario painted by the later traditions for the early period of Islam (Rippin 1990:3-4). So, how did it come together so neatly and so quickly? There is no historical precedence for such a scenario. One would expect such a degree of sophistication over a period of one or two centuries, provided there were other sources, such as neighbouring cultures from which traditions and laws could be borrowed, but certainly not within an unsophisticated desert environment, and certainly not within a period of a mere 22 years.
Secular historians cannot simply accept the position posited by the later traditions that this all came about by divine revelation, as they maintain that all of history must be substantiated with historical evidence. They are forced to stand back and ask how we know what we know, where the information originates, and whether it stands up to an "unbiased" or neutral historical analysis.
Historians had, therefore, been pushed into a dilemma. Due to their secular presuppositions they could not base their research on the existence of God, yet they could not throw out the Muslim Traditions (which naturally presuppose His existence), because they were the best and at times only documents available.
That is, until recently.
The new crop of historical experts on Islam (such as Dr. John Wansbrough, Michael Cook [both from SOAS], Patricia Crone formerly from Oxford, now lecturing at Cambridge, Yehuda Nevo from the University of Jerusalem, Andrew Rippin from Canada, and others), while admitting that there is a mystery concerning the question of divine intervention, are now looking more closely at other sources concerning the Qur'an to ascertain clues to its origins. It is these sources which are now beginning to reveal evidence for alternative explanations to the beginnings of a religion which today encompasses 1/5th of the world's population, and is growing faster then any other major religion.
It is their work, therefore, that I would like to use, to understand better a possible origin for the Qur'an. It is their material, and others, which, I feel, Muslim apologists will need to face seriously in the years ahead, as much of this new data puts into serious doubt many of the claims forwarded by traditional Muslim scholars concerning their holy book, the Qur'an, and their prophet, Muhammad. Let us, then begin our analysis by taking a look at the sources for much of what we know concerning Islam, its prophet and its book.
B: The Problems with the Islamic Traditions
In order to make a critique of the Qur'an it is important not to listen to what the exegetes are saying today, but to go back to the beginning, to the earliest sources of the Qur'an which we have at our disposal, to pick up clues as to its authenticity. One would assume that this should be quite easy to do, as it is a relatively new piece of literature, having appeared on the scene, according to Muslims, a mere "1,400 years ago."B1: The Sources
The question of sources has always been a contentious area for the secular scholar of Islam, as any study of the Qur'an must begin with the problem of primary versus secondary sources. Primary sources are those materials which are the closest, or have direct access to the event. Secondary sources concern any material which tends to be more recent and, consequently, is dependent on the primary sources. In Islam, the primary sources which we possess are 150-300 years after the events which they describe, and therefore are quite distant from those events (Nevo 1994:108; Wansbrough 1978:119; Crone 1987:204). For that reason they are, for all practical purposes, secondary sources, as they rely on other material, much of which no longer exists. The first and largest of these sources is that of "Muslim or Islamic Traditions." Because of the importance of the Muslim Traditions it is crucial that we deal with them first.Muslim Traditions are comprised of writings which were compiled by Muslims in the late eighth to early tenth centuries concerning what the prophet Muhammad said and did back in the seventh century, and commentaries on the Qur'an. They are by far the most extensive body of material which we have today on the early period of Islam. They are also written in greater detail then anything else in our possession, in that they include dates as well as explanations for what happened. They are a complement to the Qur'an.
The Qur'an by itself is difficult to follow, as it leaves the reader confused while it jumps from story to story, with little background narration or explanation. It is at this point that the traditions are important as they fill in details which otherwise would be lost. In some instances the traditions prevail over the Qur'an; as for example, when the Qur'an refers to three daily prayers (suras 11:114; 17:78-79; 30:17-18 and possibly 24:58), while the five daily prayers stipulated by the later traditions have been adopted by Muslims ever since (Glasse 1991:381).
A number of genres exist within these traditions. Their authors were not writers themselves, but were compilers and editors who drew together information "passed to them," and produced it. There are many compilers, but the four who are considered by many Muslims to be the most authoritative in each genre all lived and assembled their material between 750-923 A.D. (or 120-290 years after the death of Muhammad). It may be helpful to list their works, along with their dates:
- The Sira are accounts concerning the traditional life of the prophet (including his battles). The most comprehensive Sira was written by Ibn Ishaq (died 765 A.D.), though none of his manuscripts exist today. Consequently, we are dependent on the Sira of Ibn Hisham (died 833 A.D.), which was supposedly taken from that of Ibn Ishaq, though, by his own admission (according to the research of Patricia Crone) he omitted those areas which might have caused offense (such as anything which he felt was repugnant, poems not attested elsewhere, as well as matters which he could not accept as trustworthy) (Crone 1980:6).
- The Hadith are thousands of short reports or narratives (akhbar) on the sayings and deeds of the prophet which were collected by Muslims in the ninth and tenth centuries. Of the six most famous collections of Hadith, those of al-Bukhari (died 870 A.D.) are considered by many Muslims as the most authoritative.
- The Ta'rikh are histories or chronologies of the prophet's life, the most famous written by al-Tabari (died 923 A.D.) early in the tenth century.
- The Tafsir, are commentaries and exegesis on the Qur'an, its grammar and its context; the best known also written by al-Tabari (died 923 A.D.).
B2: Late Dates
Obviously, the first question which we must ask is why these traditions were written so late, 150-300 years after the fact? We simply do not have any "account from the Islamic' community during the [initial] 150 years or so, between the first Arab conquests [of the early seventh century] and the appearance, with the sira-maghazi narratives, of the earliest Islamic literature" [towards the late eighth century] (Wansbrough 1978:119). We should expect to find, in those intervening 150 years, at least remnants of evidence for the development of the old Arab religion towards Islam (i.e. Muslim traditions); yet we find nothing (Nevo 1994:108; Crone 1980:5-8).There are Muslims who disagree, maintaining that there is evidence of earlier traditions, principly the Muwatta by Malik ibn Anas (born in 712 A.D. and died in 795 A.D.). Norman Calder in his book Studies in Early Muslim Jurisprudence disagrees with such an early date and questions whether works can be attributed to the authors listed. He argues that most of the texts we have from these supposedly early authors are "school texts," transmitted and developed over several generations, and achieving the form in which we know them considerably later than the putative "authors" to whom they are usually ascribed. Following the current assumption that "Shafi'i's law" (which demanded that all hadith be traced to Muhammad) did not come into effect until after 820 A.D., he concluded that because the Mudawwana does not speak of Muhammad's prophetic authority whereas the Muwatta does, the Muwatta must be the later document. Consequently, Calder positions the Muwatta not prior to 795 A.D., but sometime after the Mudawwana which was written in 854 A.D. In fact Calder places the Muwatta not even in eighth century Arabia but in eleventh century Cordoba, Spain (Calder 1993). If he is correct then we are indeed left with little evidence of any traditions from the early period of Islam.
Humphreys crystallizes this problem when he points out that, "Muslims, we would suppose, must surely have taken great care to record their spectacular achievements, while the highly literate and urbanized societies which they had subjugated could hardly avoid coming to grips with what had happened to them." (Humphreys 1991:69) Yet, according to Humphreys all we find from this early period are sources which are, "either fragmentary or represent very specific or even eccentric perspectives," completely annulling any posibility of reconstructing Islam's first century adequately (Humphreys 1991:69).
The question, therefore, must be asked as to where the eighth and ninth century compilers actually obtained their material from?
The answer is that we just don't know. "Our evidence for documentation prior to 750 A.D. consists almost entirely of rather dubious citations in later compilations." (Humphreys 1991:80) Consequently, we have no reliable proof that the traditions speak truly of the life of Muhammad, or even of the Qur'an (Schacht 1949:143-154). We are asked to believe that these documents, written hundreds of years later are accurate, though we are not presented with any evidence for their veracity, outside of Isnads, which are nothing more than lists purporting to give the names of those from whom these oral traditions were passed down. Yet even the Isnads lack any supportive documentation with which to corroborate their authenticity (Humphreys 1991:81-83)! However, more of that later in the paper.
B2b: Age
Other Muslim scholars maintain that the absence of early documentation can be blamed on old age. They believe that the material upon which the primary sources were written either disintegrated over time, leaving us with few examples today, or wore out from heavy handling and so were destroyed.This argument is rather dubious. In the British Library we have ample examples of documents written by individuals in communities which were not too distant from Arabia, yet they predate these manuscripts by hundreds of years. On display are New Testament manuscripts such as the Codex Syniaticus and the Codex Alexandrinus, both of which were written in the fourth century, three to four hundred years before the period in question! Why have they not disintegrated with age?
Where this argument is especially weak, however, is when we apply it to the Qur'an itself. The "Uthmanic text" of the Qur'an (the final canon supposedly compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit, under the direction of the third caliph Uthman) is considered by all Muslims to be the most important piece of literature ever written. As we noted earlier, according to Sura 43:2-4, it is the "mother of books." Its importance lies in the fact that it is considered to be an exact replica of the "eternal tablets" which exist in heaven (Sura 85:22). Muslim tradition informs us that all other competing codices and manuscripts were destroyed after 646-650 A.D. Even "Hafsah's copy," from which the final recension was taken was burned. If this Uthmanic text was so important, why then was it not written on paper, or other material which would have lasted till today? And certainly, if the earliest manuscripts wore out with usage, why were they not replaced with others written on skin, like so many other older documents which are still in existence today?
We have absolutely no evidence for the original Qur'anic text (Schimmel 1984:4). Nor do we have any of the alleged four copies which were made of this recension and sent to Mecca, Medina, Basra and Damascus (see Gilchrist's arguments in his book Jam' al-Qur'an, 1989, pp. 140-154, as well as Ling's & Safadi's The Qur'an 1976, pp. 11-17). Even if these copies had somehow disintegrated with age, there would surely be some fragments of the documents which we could refer to. By the end of the seventh century Islam had expanded right across North Africa and up into Spain, and east as far as India. The Qur'an (according to tradition) was the centrepiece of their faith. Certainly within that enormous sphere of influence there should be some Qur'anic documents or manuscripts which still exist till this day. Yet, there is nothing from that period at all.
While Christianity can claim more than 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, 10,000 Latin Vulgates and at least 9,300 other early versions, adding up to over 24,000 New Testament manuscripts still in existence (McDowell 1990:43-55), most of which were written between 25-400 years after the death of Christ (or between the 1st and 5th centuries) (McDowell 1972:39-49), Islam can not provide a single manuscript until well into the eighth century (Lings & Safadi 1976:17; Schimmel 1984:4-6). If the Christians could retain so many thousands of ancient manuscripts, all of which were written long before the seventh century, at a time when paper had not yet been intoduced, forcing the dependency on papyrus which disintegtrated, then one wonders why the Muslims are not able to forward a single manuscript from this much later period, when it was supposedly revealed? This indeed presents a problem for the argument that the earliest Qur'ans all simply disintegrated with age, or were destroyed because they were worn.
B2c: Scripts
In response, Muslims contend that they do have a number of these "Uthmanic recensions," these original copies from the seventh century still in their possession. I have heard Muslims claim that there are original copies in Mecca, in Cairo and in almost every ancient Islamic settlement. I have often asked them to furnish me with the data which would substantiate their antiquity; a task which, to date, nobody has been able to do.There are two documents, however, which do hold some credibility, and to which many Muslims refer. These are the Samarkand Manuscript, which is located in the Soviet State Library, at Tashkent, Uzbekistan (in the southern part of the former Soviet Union), and the Topkapi Manuscript, which can be found in the Topkapi Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey.
These two documents are indeed old, and there has been ample enough etymological and paleographical analysis done on them by scriptologists, as well as experts in Arabic calligraphy to warrant their discussion here.
Samarkand Manuscript - taken from Gilchrist's Jam' al-Qur'an 1989, pp. 148-150:
The Samarkand Manuscript is not at all a complete document. In fact, out of the 114 suras found in today's Qur'ans, only parts of suras 2 to 43 are included. Of these suras much of the text is missing. The actual inscription of the text in the Samarkand codex presents a real problem, as it is very irregular. Some pages are neatly and uniformly copied out while others are quite untidy and imbalanced (Gilchrist 1989:139 and 154). On some pages the text is fairly expansive, while on other pages it is severely cramped and condensed. At times the Arabic letter KAF has been excluded from the text, while at others it not only is extended but is the dominant letter in the text. Because so many pages of the manuscript differ so extensively from one another, the assumption today is that we have a composite text, compiled from portions of different manuscripts (Gilchrist 1989:150).
Also within the text one can find artistic illuminations between the suras, usually made up of coloured bands of rows of squares, as well as 151 red, green, blue and orange medallions. These illuminations have compelled the scriptologists to give the codex a ninth century origin, as it is grossly unlikely that such embellishments would have accompanied a seventh century Uthmanic manuscript sent out to the various provinces (Lings & Safadi 1976:17-20; Gilchrist 1989:151).
Topkapi Manuscript:
The Topkapi Manuscript in Istanbul, Turkey is also written on parchment, and devoid of vocalization (see Gilchrist, 1989, pp.151-153). Like the Samarkand MSS it is supplemented with ornamental medallions indicating a later age (Lings & Safadi 1976:17-20).
Muslims claim that this too must be one of the original copies, if not the original one compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit. Yet one only needs to compare it with the Samarkand codex to realize that they most certainly cannot both be Uthmanic originals. For instance, the Istanbul's Topkapi codex has 18 lines to the page whereas the Samarkand codex in Tashkent has only half that many, between 8 and 12 lines to the page; the Istanbul codex is inscribed throughout in a very formal manner, the words and lines quite uniformly written out, while the text of the Samarkand codex is often haphazard and considerably distorted. One cannot believe that both these manuscripts were copied out by the same scribes.
Script Analysis:
Experts in manuscript analysis use three tests for ascertaining their age. To begin with, they test the age of the paper on which the manuscript is written, using such chemical processes as carbon-14 dating. This is adequate for recent documents such as the Qur'an, as precise dating of between +/-20 years is possible. There has been a reticence to use it, however, because the amount of material that has to be destroyed in the process (1 to 3 grams) would require the loss of too much of the manuscript. A more refined form of carbon-14 dating, known as AMS (Accelerator Mass Spectometry) is now used, requiring only 0.5 to 1.0 mg. of material for testing (Vanderkam 1994: 17). Yet, to date neither of these manuscripts have been tested by this more advanced method.
Experts also study the ink of the manuscript and analyse its makeup, discerning where it originated, or if it had been erased and copied over. But the age for these documents would be difficult to pinpoint because of the lateness of the document. These problems are compounded by the inaccessibility of these manuscripts for detailed research, due to a fear by those who guard them.
Thus the specialists must go to the script itself, analyse whether the manuscript is recent or old. This study is better known as paleography. Styles of letter formation change over time. These changes tend to be uniform as manuscripts were usually written by professional scribes. Thus the penmanship tended to follow easy to delineate conventions, with only gradual modifications (Vanderkam 1994:16). By examining the handwriting in texts whose dates are already known and noting their development over time, a paleographer can compare them with other undated texts and thereby ascertain the time period to which they belong.
It is when we apply the paleographical test to both the Samarkand and Topkapi manuscripts that we arrive at some interesting conclusions concerning their dates. It is this evidence which is proving to be the most serious argument against the possibility that either of these two manuscripts could be those copied out, or 'Uthman', or that they were even in existence in the seventh century.
The Kufic Script:
What most Muslims do not realize is that these two manuscripts are written in the Kufic Script, a script which according to modern Qur'anic experts, such as Martin Lings and Yasin Hamid Safadi, did not appear until late into the eighth century (790s and later), and was not in use at all in Mecca and Medina in the seventh century (Lings & Safadi 1976:12-13,17; Gilchrist 1989:145-146; 152-153).
The reasons for this are quite simple. Consider: The Kufic script, properly known as al-Khatt al-Kufi, derives its name from the city of Kufa in Iraq (Lings & Safadi 1976:17). It would be rather odd for this to be the official script of an Arabic Qur'an as it is a script which takes its name from a city that had only been conquered by the Arabs a mere 10-14 years earlier.
It is important to note that the city of Kufa, which is in present day Iraq, was a city which would have been Sassanid or Persian before that time (637-8 A.D.). Thus, while Arabic would have been known there, it would not have been the predominant language, let alone the predominant script, until much later.
We know in fact, that the Kufic script reached its perfection during the late eighth century (up to one hundred and fifty years after Muhammad's death) and thereafter it became widely used throughout the Muslim world (Lings & Safadi 1976:12,17; Gilchrist 1989:145-146). This makes sense, since after 750 A.D. the Abbasids controlled Islam, and due to their Persian background were headquartered in the Kufa and Baghdad areas. They would thus have wanted their script to dominate. Having been themselves dominated by the Umayyads (who were based in Damascus) for around 100 years, it would now be quite understandable that an Arabic script which originated in their area of influence, such as the Kufic script, would evolve into that which we find in these two documents mentioned here.
The Landscape Format:
Another factor which points to the late dates for these two manuscripts are the format in which they are written. One will observe that due to the elongated style of the Kufic script, they both use sheets which are wider than they are tall. This is known as the 'landscape format', a format borrowed from Syriac and Iraqi Christian documents of the eighth and ninth centuries. The earlier Arabic manuscripts were all written in the 'upright format' (thanks to Dr. Hugh Goodacre of the Oriental and India Office Collections, who pointed this fact out to me for the South Bank debate).
Therefore, it stands to reason that both the Topkapi and Samarkand Manuscripts, because they are written in the Kufic script, and because they use the landscape format, could not have been written earlier than 150 years after the Uthmanic Recension was supposedly compiled; at the earliest the late 700s or early 800s (Gilchrist 1989:144-147).
Ma'il and Mashq Scripts:
So what script would have been used in the Hijaz (Arabia) at that time? We do know that there were two earlier Arabic scripts which most modern Muslims are not familiar with. These are the al-Ma'il Script, developed in the Hijaz, particularly in Mecca and Medina, and the Mashq Script, also developed in Medina (Lings & Safadi 1976:11; Gilchrist 1989:144-145). The al-Ma'il Script came into use in the seventh century and is easily identified, as it was written at a slight angle (see the example on page 16 of Gilchrist's Jam' al-Qur'an, 1989). In fact the word al-Ma'il means "slanting." This script survived for about two centuries before falling into disuse.
The Mashq Script also began in the seventh century, but continued to be used for many centuries. It is more horizontal in form and can be distinguished by its somewhat cursive and leisurely style (Gilchrist 1989:144).
If the Qur'an had been compiled at this time in the seventh century, then one would expect it to have been written in either the Ma'il or Mashq script.
Interestingly, we do have a Qur'an written in the Ma'il script, and considered to be the earliest Qur'an in our possession today. Yet it is not found in either Istanbul or Tashkent, but, ironically, resides in the British Library in London (Lings & Safadi 1976:17,20; Gilchrist 1989:16,144). It has been dated towards the end of the eighth century, by Martin Lings, the former curator for the manuscripts of the British Library, who is himself, a practising Muslim.
Therefore, with the help of script analysis, we are quite certain that there is no known manuscript of the Qur'an which we possess today which can be dated from the seventh century (Gilchrist 1989:147-148,153).
Furthermore, virtually all the earliest Qur'anic manuscript fragments which we do possess cannot be dated earlier than 100 years after the time of Muhammad. In her book Calligraphy and Islamic Culture, Annemarie Schimmel underlines this point when she states that apart from the recently discovered [Korans] in Sanaa, "the earliest datable fragments go back to the first quarter of the eighth century." (Schimmels 1984:4)
Interestingly, these Qur'ans from Sanaa still remain a mystery, as the Yemen government has not permitted the Germans who discovered them to publish their findings. Could this be a possible cover-up due to what these earliest' Qur'ans might reveal? There have been suggestions that the script in these early eighth century Qur'ans does not correspond to that which we have today. We still wait to know the whole truth.
From the evidence we do have, however, it would seem improbable that portions of the Qur'an supposedly copied out at Uthman's direction have survived. What we are left with is the intervening 150 years for which we cannot account. However, before continuing with the Qur'an, let us return to the Muslim traditions and continue our discussion on whether these earliest sources of the Qur'an can provide an adequate assessment of the Qur'an's authority. The body of traditions which are most widely used are the Hadith.
B2a: Writing
Muslims maintain that the late dates of the primary sources can be attributed to the fact that writing was simply not used in such an isolated area at that time. This assumption is completely unfounded, as writing on paper began long before the seventh century. Writing paper was invented in the fourth century, and used extensively thoughout the civilized world thereafter. The Umayyad dynasty was headquartered in the former Byzantine area of Syria and not Arabia. Thus it was a sophisticated society which used secretaries in the Caliphal courts, proving that manuscript writing was well developed there.Furthermore, we are told that Arabia (better known as the Hijaz) in the seventh century and earlier, was an area of trade, with caravans plying routes north-south, and possibly east-and west. While the evidence shows that the trade was primarily local (as we will discuss later), caravans were in use. How did the caravaneers keep their records? They certainly didn't memorize the figures.
And finally, we must ask how we came by the Qur'an if there was no-one capable of putting-pen-to-paper before that time? Muslims claim the existence of a number of codices of the Qur'an shortly after the death of Muhammad, such as those of Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, Abu Musa, and Ubayy b. Ka'b (Pearson 1986:406). What were these codices if they were not written documents? The Uthmanic text itself had to have been written, otherwise it would not be a text! Writing was available, but for some reason, no record was kept of those supposed earlier documents prior to 750 A.D.
B3: Credibility
There is much discussion not only amongst the secular historians, but within Islam as well, even today, as to the credibility of the hadith compilations.As we noted earlier, the bulk of our historical texts on early Islam were compiled between 850-950 A.D. (Humphreys 1991:71). All later material used these compilations as their standard, while earlier material simply cannot be corroborated with any degree of authenticity (Humphreys 1991:71-72). It could be that the earlier traditions were no longer relevant, and so were left to disintegrate, or were destroyed. We don't know. What we do know is that these compilers most likely took their material from collections compiled within the decades around 800 A.D., and not from any documents which were written in the seventh century, and certainly not from the person of Muhammad or his companions (Humphreys 1991:73, 83; Schacht 1949:143-145; Goldziher 1889-90:72).
We also know that many of their compilations were paraphrases of earlier Akhbars (anecdotes and phrases) which they considered to be acceptable, though what their criterion was is still a mystery (Humphreys 1991:83). It now seems obvious that the early ninth century "schools of law" authenticated their own agenda by asserting that their doctrines came initially from the companions of the prophet and then from the prophet himself (Schacht 1949:153-154).
Schacht maintains that the origin for this undertaking was the scholar al-Shafi'i (died in 820 A.D.). It was he who stipulated that all traditions of law must be traced back to Muhammad in order to retain their credibility. As a result the great mass of legal traditions perpetrated by the classical schools of law invoking the authority of the prophet originated during the time of Shafi'i and later, and consequently express later Iraqian doctrines, and not those from early Arabia (Schacht 1949:145). It is this agenda imposed by each school of law concerning the choice of the traditions in the ninth and tenth centuries which many now believe invalidates the authenticity for the hadith.
Wansbrough agrees with Humphreys and Schacht when he maintains that literary records, although presenting themselves as contemporary with the events they describe, actually belonged to a period well after such events, which suggests that they had been written according to later points of view in order to fit the purposes and agendas of that later time (Rippin 1985:155-156). Take the example of the Shi'ites. Their agenda is indeed quite transparent, as they maintain that of the 2,000 valid hadith the majority (1,750) were derived from Ali, the son-in-law of the prophet, to whom all Shi'ites look for inspiration. To a casual observer this looks rather suspect. If the premise for authenticity for the Shi'ites was purely political, then why should we not deduce the same premise was likewise at work with the other compilers of the traditions?
The question we must ask is whether or not there is an underlying "grain of historical truth" which is left for us to use? Schacht and Wansbrough are both sceptical on this point (Schacht 1949:147-149; Wansbrough 1978:119).
Patricia Crone takes the argument one step further by contending that credibility for the traditions has been lost due to the bias of each individual compiler. She states,
The works of the first compilers such as Abu Mikhnaf, Sayf b.'Umar, 'Awana, Ibn Ishaq and Ibn al-Kalbi are accordingly mere piles of disparate traditions reflecting no one personality, school, time or place: as the Medinese Ibn Ishaq transmits traditions in favour of Iraq, so the Iraqi Sayf has traditions against it. And all the compilations are characterized by the inclusion of material in support of conflicting legal and doctrinal persuasions. (Crone 1980:10)In other words, local schools of law simply formed different traditions, relying on local conventions and the opinions of local scholars (Rippin 1990:76-77). In time scholars became aware of this diversity and saw the need to unify Muslim law. The solution was found by appealing to Prophetic tradition, which would have authority over a scholar's ra'y (opinion). Hence the traditions attributed to the Prophet began to multiply from around 820 A.D. onwards (Schacht 1949:145; Rippin 1990:78).
Take the example of the Sira, which gives us the best material on the prophet's life. It seems to take some of its information from the Qur'an. Although Isnads are used to determine authenticity (which we now know to be suspect, as we shall see later), its authority is dependent on the authority of the Qur'an, whose credibility is now in doubt as well (also to be discussed in a later section). According to G. Levi Della Vida, in his article on the Sira, the formation of the Sira down to the period of its reduction to its "canonical" form seems to have taken place along the following lines:
The continually increasing veneration for the person of Muhammad provoked the growth around his figure of a legend of hagiographical (idolizing) character in which alongside of more-or-less corrupt historical memories there gathered episodes modelled on Jewish or Christian religious tradition (perhaps also Iranian, although to a much lesser degree). (Levi Della Vida 1934:441)We are therefore left with documents which hold little credibility (Crone 1987:213-215). Even earlier material helps us little. The Maghazi, which are stories of the prophet's battles and campaigns, are the earliest Muslim documents which we possess. They should have given us the best snapshot of that time, yet they tell us little concerning the prophet's life or teachings. In fact, oddly enough nowhere in these documents is there a veneration of Muhammad as a prophet!He goes on to explain that his material became , organized and systematized in the schools of the Medina muhaddithun, through a 'midrash,' subtle and full of combinations, made up of passages from the Qur'an in which exegesis had delighted to discover allusions to very definite events in the life of the Prophet. It was in this way that the history of the Medina period was formed. (Levi Della Vida 1934:441)
B4: Contradictions
A further problem with the traditions are the contradictions, confusions and inconsistencies as well as anomalies which are evident throughout. For instance Crone asks, "What do we do with Baladhuri's statement that the Qibla (direction for prayer) in the first Kufan mosque was to the west...that there are so many Fatimas, and that 'Ali is sometimes Muhammad's brother? It is a tradition in which information means nothing and leads nowhere." (Crone 1980:12)Certain authors wrote reports which contradict other reports which they had themselves written (Humphreys 1991:73; Crone 1987:217-218). Al-Tabari, for instance, often gives different, and sometimes conflicting accounts of the same incidents (Kennedy 1986:362). The question of how far al-Tabari edited his material therefore remains an open one. Did he select the akhbar (short narratives) which he used in order to develop and illustrate major themes about the history of the Islamic state? We don't know.
Ibn Ishaq informs us that Muhammad stepped into a political vacuum upon entering Yathrib (Medina), but then later tells us that he snatched away authority from a well-established ruler there (Ibn Hisham ed.1860: 285, 385, 411). Ibn Ishaq also relates that the Jews in Medina were supportive of their Arab neighbours, and yet were molested by them (Ibn Hisham ed.1860:286, 372, 373, 378). Which of these contradictory accounts are we to believe? As Crone points out, "the stories are told with complete disregard for what the situation in Medina may or may not have been like in historical fact." (Crone 1987:218)
Another difficulty are the seeming contradictory accounts given by different compilers (Rippin 1990:10-11). Many are variations on a common theme. Take for example the 15 different accounts of Muhammad's encounter with a representative of a non-Islamic religion who recognizes him as a future prophet (Crone 1987:219-220). Some traditions place this encounter during his infancy (Ibn Hisham ed.1860:107), others when he was nine or twelve years old (Ibn Sa'd 1960:120), while others say he was twenty-five at the time (Ibn Hisham ed.1860:119). Some traditions maintain that he was seen by Ethiopian Christians (Ibn Hisham ed.1860:107), or by Jews ( Abd al-Razzaq 1972: 318), while others maintain it was a seer or a Kahin at either Mecca, or Ukaz or Dhu'l-Majaz (Ibn Sa'd 1960:166; Abd al-Razzaq 1972:317; Abu Nu'aym 1950:95, 116f). Crone concludes that what we have here is nothing more than "fifteen equally fictitious versions of an event that never took place." (Crone 1987:220)
Consequently it is difficult to ascertain which reports are authentic, and which are to be discarded. This is a problem which confounds Muslims and orientalists even today.
B5: Similarities
On the other hand, many of the traditions reflect the same material as the others, implying the recycling of the same body of data down through the centuries without any reference to where it originated.Take for example al-Tabari's history of the life of the prophet which is much the same as Ibn Hisham's Sira, and much the same as his "Commentary on the Qur'an," which is much the same as Bukhari's Hadith collection. Because of their similarities at such a late date, they seem to point to a singular source early in the ninth century, from which all the others took their material (Crone 1980:11). Does this suggest a "canon" of material authorized by the Ulama? Possibly, but we can never be sure.
These materials, consequently, create immense problems for the historian who may only consider them authentic if there is observable data which can be objectively assessed to be derived from outside the secondary sources themselves, such as the primary sources from which these traditions were obtained. Yet we have few if any to refer to. The question, therefore, must be asked, Did the primary sources ever exist, and if so would we be able to recognize them, using the secondary material at our disposal?'
B6: Proliferation
A further problem with these traditions is that of proliferation (Rippin 1990:34). As we have mentioned, these works begin to appear not earlier than the eighth century (200-300 years after the event to which they refer). Then suddenly they proliferate by the hundreds of thousands. Why? How can we explain this proliferation?Take the instance of the death of 'Abdallah, the father of Muhammad. The compilers of the mid to late eighth century (Ibn Ishaq and Ma'mar) were agreed that Abdallah had died early enough to leave Muhammad an orphan; but as to the specific details of his death, God knew best' (Cook 1983:63).
Further on into the ninth century more seems to be known. Waqidi, who wrote fifty years later tells us not only when Abdallah died, but how he died, where he died, what his age was, and the exact place of his burial. According to Michael Cook, "this evolution in the course of half a century from uncertainty to a profusion of precise detail suggests that a fair amount of what Waqidi knew was not knowledge." (Cook 1983:63-65) This is rather typical of Waqidi. He was always willing to give precise dates, locations, names where Ibn Ishaq had none (Crone 1987:224). "It is no wonder," Crone retorts,
that scholars are so fond of Waqidi: where else does one find such wonderfully precise information about everything one wishes to know? But given that this information was all unknown earlier to Ibn Ishaq, its value is doubtful in the extreme. And if spurious information accumulated at this rate in the two generations between Ibn Ishaq and Waqidi, it is hard to avoid the conslusion that even more must have accumulated in the three generations between the Prophet and Ibn Ishaq." (Crone 1987:224)Consequently, without any real supervision, or the desire to present any documentation the compilers became more than what their office permitted.
Muslim scholars who are aware of this proliferation excuse it by contending that the Muslim religion was beginning to stabilize at this time. Thus, it was natural that the literary works would also begin to appear more numerous. Earlier written material, they say, was no longer relevant for the new Islam, and consequently was either discarded or lost (Humphreys 1991:72).
While there is some credence to this theory, one would assume that even a few of these documents would have remained, tucked away in some library, or within someone's collection. Yet there is nothing, and this is suspicious.
Of more importance, however, is whether the "Uthmanic Qur'anic text" (the final recension, supposedly compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit in 646-650 A.D., and the source for our contemporary Qur'an) would be included in this scenario? Certainly it would have been considered to be of relevance, for, as we have previously mentioned, according to tradition all of the other copies and codices were burned by the Caliph Uthman soon after, leaving this one text, from which four copies were made. Where are these copies today? The earliest manuscript segments of the Qur'an which we possess are not dated earlier then 690-750 A.D.! (Schimmel 1984:4) Are those who hold this position willing to admit that these four copies were also discarded because they were no longer relevant for the new Islam?
Furthermore, the sheer number of Hadiths which suddenly appear in the ninth century creates a good deal of scepticism. It has been claimed that by the mid-ninth century there were over 600,000 hadith, or early stories about the prophet. In fact, tradition has it that they were so numerous that the ruling Caliph asked Al Bukhari, the well-known scholar, to collect the true sayings of the prophet out of the 600,000. Obviously, even then there was doubt concerning the veracity for many of these Hadith.
Bukhari never spelled out the criteria which guided his choice, except for vague pronouncements of "unreliability" or "unsuitability" (Humphreys 1991:73). In the end, he retained only 7,397 of the hadith, or roughly a mere 1.2%! However, allowing for repetition, the net total was 2,762, gathered, it is said, from the 600,000 (A.K.C. 1993:12). What this means is that of the 600,000 hadith 592,603 of them were false, and had to be scrapped. Thus nearly 99% of these hadith were considered spurious. This beggars belief!
Ironically it is just this sort of scenario which creates doubt about the authenticity of any of the hadith. Where did these 600,000 sayings come from in the first place if so many were considered to be spurious? Were any of them written down? Do we have any evidence of their existence before this time? None at all!
The fact that they suddenly materialized at this period (in the ninth century, or 250 years after the event to which they refer), and just as suddenly were rejected, seems to suggest that they were created or adopted at this time, and not at an earlier date. This echoes the statement made earlier by Schacht concerning the need by compilers of the ninth century to authenticate borrowed laws and traditions by finding a link with the Prophet. In their haste they borrowed much too liberally, which in turn, forced the Ulama to step in and canonize those hadith which they considered supported their agenda.
That still leaves us with the problem of how they decided which hadith were authentic and which were not.
B7: Isnad
To answer this problem, Muslim scholars maintain that the primary means for choosing between the authentic and the spurious hadith was a process of oral transmission called in Arabic Isnad. This, Muslims contend, was the science which was used by Bukhari, Tabari and other ninth and tenth century compilers to authenticate their compilations. In order to know who was the original author of the numerous hadith at their disposal, the compilers provided a list of names which supposedly traced back the authorship through time to the prophet himself. Because of its importance for our discussion, this science of Isnad needs to be explained in greater detail:In order to give credibility to a hadith, or a narrative, a list of names was attached to each document supposedly designating through whom the hadith had been passed down. It was a chain of names of transmitters, stating, I received this from ____ who obtained it from ____ who got it from a companion of the prophet.' (Rippin 1990:37-39)
While we in the West find oral transmission suspect, it was well developed within the Arab world, and the vehicle for passing down much of their history. The problem with oral transmission is that by its very nature, it can be open to corruption as it has no written formula or documentation to corroborate it. Thus, it can easily be manipulated according to the agenda of the orator (much like a child's game of "Chinese Whispers").
For the early Muslim, however, an Isnad was considered essential, as it gave the signature of those from whom the document came. Our concern is how we can know whether the names were authentic? Did the person to whom the Isnad is credited really say what he is credited as saying?
A compiler, in order to gain credibility for his writings, would list historically well-known individuals in his Isnad, similar to the custom we use today of requesting noteworthy individuals to write forwards in our books. The larger the list within the chain the greater its credibility. But unlike those who write forwards today, the ninth century compilers had no documentation to prove that their sources were authentic. Those individuals whose names they borrowed were long dead, and could not vouch for what they had allegedly said.
Curiously, "isnads had a tendency to grow backwards.' In certain early texts a statement will be found attributed to a caliph of the Umayyad dynasty, for example, or will even be unattributed, as in the case of certain legal maxims; elsewhere, the same statements will be found in the form of hadith reports with fully documented isnads going back to Muhammad or one of his companions." (Rippin 1990:38)
It therefore seems likely that isnads were used to give authority to certain hadith which "clearly are concerned with matters of interest to the community in generations after Muhammad but which have been framed as predictions made by him." (Rippin 1990:38) These isnads and the hadith which they supposedly authenticate merely testify to what the exegetes chose to believe rather than to what can be deemed as historical facts, which in turn weakens that which they sought to communicate (Crone 1987:214).
It is rather obvious, therefore, that the isnads rather then corroborating and substantiating the material which we find in the Muslim traditions, present instead an even greater problem. We are left with the realisation that without any continuous transmission between the seventh and eighth centuries, the traditions can only be considered a snapshot of the later ninth and tenth centuries and nothing more (Crone 1987:226).
What is more, the science of Isnad, which set about to authenticate those very Isnads only began in the tenth century, long after the Isnads in question had already been compiled (Humphreys 1991:81), and so have little relevance for our discussion. Consequently, because it is such an inexact science, the rule of thumb' for most historians today is: the larger the list, which includes the best known historical names, the more suspect its authenticity.' We will never know, therefore, whether the names listed in the Isnads ever gave or received the information with which they are credited.
B8: Storytelling
Possibly the greatest argument against the use of Muslim Tradition as a source is the problem of transmission. To better understand the argument we need to delve into the hundred or so years prior to Ibn Ishaq (765A.D.), and after the death of Muhammad in (632 A.D.), since, "the Muslim 'rabbis' to whom we owe [Muhammad's] biography were not the original memory banks of the Prophet's tradition." (Crone 1980:5)According to Patricia Crone, a Danish researcher in this field of source criticism, we know little about the original material, as the traditions have been reshaped by a progression of storytellers over a period of a century and a half (Crone 1980:3). These storytellers were called Kussas. It is believed that they compiled their stories using the model of the Biblical legends which were quite popular in and around the Byzantine world at that time, as well as stories of Iranian origin. From their stories there grew up a literature which belonged to the historical novel rather than to history (Levi Della Vida 1934:441).
Within these stories were examples of material which were transmitted by oral tradition for generations before they were written down. They were of two kinds: Mutawatir (material handed down successively) and Mashhur (material which was well-known or widely known) (Welch 1991:361).
Patricia Crone, in her book: Meccan Trade and the Rise of Islam, maintains that most of what the later compilers received came from these story-tellers (Kussas) who were traditionally the real repositories of history:
...it was the storytellers who created the [Muslim] tradition. The sound historical tradition to which they are supposed to have added their fables simply did not exist. It is because the storytellers played such a crucial role in the formation of the tradition that there is so little historicity to it. As storyteller followed upon storyteller, the recollection of the past was reduced to a common stock of stories, themes, and motifs that could be combined and recombined in a profusion of apparently factual accounts. Each combination and recombination would generate new details, and as spurious information accumulated, genuine information would be lost. In the absence of an alternative tradition, early scholars were forced to rely on the tales of storytellers, as did Ibn Ishaq, Waqidi, and other historians. It is because they relied on the same repertoire of tales that they all said such similar things. (Crone 1987:225)ecause the earliest written accounts of Muhammad's life were not written until the late Umayyid period (around 750 A.D.), "the religious tradition of Islam," Crone believes, "is thus a monument to the destruction rather than the preservation of the past," (Crone 1980:7) and "it is [this] tradition where information means nothing and leads nowhere." (Crone 1980:12) Therefore, it stands to reason that Muslim Tradition is simply not trustworthy as it has had too much development during the course of its transmission from one generation to the next. In fact, we might as well repeat what we have already stated: the traditions are relevant only when they speak on the period in which they were written, and nothing more.
There are so many difficulties in the traditions: the late dates for the earliest manuscripts, the loss of credibility due to a later agenda, and the contradictions which are evident when one reads them, as well as the proliferation due to aggressive redaction by the storytellers, and the inexact science of Isnad used for corroboration. Is it any wonder that historians, while obliged to refer to the material presented by Muslim Tradition (because of its size and scope), prefer to find alternative explanations to the traditionally accepted ideas and theories, while looking elsewhere for further source material? Having referred earlier to the Qur'an, it makes sense, therefore, to return to it, as there are many Muslim scholars who claim that it is the Qur'an itself which affords us the best source for its own authority, and not the traditions.
So, are you saying anything that Muhammed's companion say is not reliable? So, which sunna of the prophet should we believe and which one should we throw inside the garbage?
Secondly, the sahih muslim hadith is an authentic hadith approved by all muslims. It's not a weak hadith as muslims tend to excuse themselves from any hadith that exposes islam.
Aisha was quoted in this hadith i posted that there are missing verses in the quran. Why did u ignore her, do u know more than Aisha?
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But did any muslim believe the dead sea scrolls which is in the original language of the bible that suffer no translation?
If i may ask, you said the quran is still in its original language, how? But Uthman got the original manuscript burnt with fire, how did u mean here?
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hahahahaha But Allah says the earth is immovable.
Joshua's command on the sun to remain fix was a miracle same way moses divided the ses into two.
Your Allah could not perform any miracle.
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Bring the bible verse to support your point.
And Does Allah say anything contrary?
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without sheddig of blood, how do muslims attain salvation then?
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The Bible will back me up, 43 Different Writers in Different Places and Languages, with the same message not even with the best Computer could they Harmonized what is in it. Everyone has a Consciousness; every single time a person does something Bad his own consciousness tells Him his done good or bad here is where The Holly Spirit is at work all times. Satan accuses you to condemn, The Spirit of God Brings Conviction for a sincere Repentance.
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You Wrote: If this is true, why not let the creature make everyone be guided and believe in Jesus?
To star With it is not a Creature, Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit, You have not lied to men but to God." Acts 5:4
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. Matthew 13:14, Isaias 6:9.
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If the Holy Spirit has the power to make people believe in Jesus and save many from hellfire, why did God not send this creature for this noble cause?
You are so Inocent or you play to be Dumb.
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: John 16:8
All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. Act 2:4. this is still hapening all Over the World.
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I use my Head Also have the Holly Spirit to Direct My path, You are completely wrong, the Bible Has Direct Revelation as it has common sence and Inspired by the Light that Shined to the Prophets of Old. But the path of the just [is] as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. Proverbs4:18. We all are growing and Expanding. Your word is a lamp to my feet, and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105
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oh, since you are a muslim, can u tell me who is RuhAllah? And secondly, is this claim stated in the quran?
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Where does the quran teaches that the worship of Allah alone gives salvation? Have u ever read Q.3.185 and Q.19:68, and Q.19:70-73 before?
Where does the bible say u must murder an innocent person for salvation? Explain why Allah will smile at those who commit suicide and murder in Allah's cause?
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Tell me, how can i be a righteous person in islam? And can u show me a verse that stress about righteousness in islam?
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Secondly, you claimed no muslims ever claim there are missing verses, so, why are u ignoring what muslims who lived with yr false prophet say?
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Tell me what the translations say? I will expose all those islamic translators that are liars. Bring any of the translators you like.
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Yes, Jesus died for our forgiveness and christians dont need to be suicide bombers for forgiveness of sins.
Tell me why do muslims commit suicide bombing for salvation in islam?
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The sun is just one of about 500,000 stars in our own galaxy... LOL Firstly, how did u know that there are 500,000 stars or about in the galaxy? But you mentioned sun as one, so, why do u have problem with one sun in the bible?
Secondly, did u get this from the quran?
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We have also a more sure word of prophecy; where unto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, 2 Peter 1:19. Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1John 4:1. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached let him be eternally condemned! Glatians 1:8.
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I never Mention the Bible said that, you Are incredibly dumb, I said you understimate the power of God and the spiritual knowledge He bestowed on every recored event in the Bible, you think you know to much and you are not doing more than the work of the Devil. The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months. Revelation 13:5 we know who the False prophet is and we know what the beast Do and for how long.
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even more proof Acts 15:10
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
How much more proof do you need? Your video and statements are invalid. I know The True Lord and He is Jesus Christ, and I even obey him as almost none does.
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Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3432:
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."
In the first hadith, a Sahih Muslim one, Muhammad's men were at first hesitant to have sex with wives of polytheists, but Muhammad got a revelation sanctioning it!
The next hadith, a Sahih Bukhari one, is worse! The men want to have sex, as "they miss their wives & celibacy has become hard on them!" Prophet Muhammad allowed them!
Is this right?
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Now their rape is allowed! Since Muhammad's conduct is all time Sunnah, should this be permissible nowadays too?
Allah swears by the pen in Q.68:1 and u say he is emphasising on the Pen.
Will you say Allah is emphasising on another lord in the following verse?
Q.70:40 I swear by the Lord of the rising places...
Explain why Allah is swearing by another Lord?
Thank u for the honest answer. Since you say Jesus is the messiah in the bible and the quran, then why Did muhammed call Jesus his Allah when he was describing the fake messiah(Al Dhajjal)?
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 9.505
The Prophet said, "Allah did not send any prophet but that he warned his nation of the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). He is one-eyed while your Allah is not one-eyed. The word 'Kafir' is written between his two eyes."
Explain why Allah become the messiah Jesus?
You claim Jesus calling father, He was calling Allah. Have u got any verse where Allah accepted to be callled a father in the quran?
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Priests lied to me? what lie? There are many faults in the quran. If there is no fault in the quran, can you tell me who Allah inherited the earth and heaven from in Q.19:40?
Show me a verse where describes the shape of the earth. LOL
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Q.48:27 Laqad sadaqa Allahu rasoolahualrru/ya bialhaqqi latadkhulunnaalmasjida alharama in shaa Allahu amineenamuhalliqeena ruoosakum wamuqassireena latakhafoona faAAalima ma lam taAAlamoo ..........
I hope u have eyes to see InshaAllahu i posted from your quran. LOL
You have not yet proven to me that Allah is God.
How do u know islam is true when Allah says he will gather everybody around hell fire in Q.19:68. It shows every muslim will go to hell fire. LOL
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If I may ask, If you swear by Your Car, is that an evidence that u exist? Do u see any sense in swearing by creature to prove existence?
From Genesis to Revelation, Bible God swears by himself but Allah swears by creature.
Allah in Q.68:1 swears by the Pen. Can u explain how this proves the existence?
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In Syria, God is called Alaha, stop lying. In aramaic, God is Elah. So, how does that sound Allah?
Show me the quran verse where Allah claims to be a Father.
I am waiting for your response...
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You said in a minute ago that Angel speak in the quran and now you say i am looking for faults in the quran. LOLOLOLOL. So, there are faults in the quran?
Tell me, Who is the messiah in islam, Allah or Issa?
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Can u bring up the verse where the bible specifically called satan the morning star? I know u are talking about Isaiah chapter. LOL
Well, your muslims brothers in indonesia say the Person is Jesus in their dreams. LOL
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Allah says InshaAllah in Q.48:27, do you have any problem with that?
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show me how Allah ressurected Muhammed? You still fail woefully to address the issue i raised on why muhammed was sent to the world? Are you saying the messages of previous messages by messengers were all false?
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Secondly, Is it Allah or Gabriel that spoke in the following verse?
Q.14:4 We sent messengers of different languages to different nation to speak in the language of his own people....
Im waiting for your response.
If Jesus says the father is greater than I, Is Allah that father Jesus mentioned?
Please, respond
hmmm, Are u sure? Tell me, who speak in the following verse, Allah or Angel?
Q.11:119 Except Thy Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and men altogether.
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How are the christians misled big time? Are u mentally alright? Dont u see your Allah's funny mistakes that Jesus was a direct Nephew of Moses when Moses actually lived 1,000 years from Jesus?
Allah keeps saying Mary the mother of Jesus was a sister of Aaron..... This is a big blow to Allah. Aaron was from the levite tribe and Mary was from the tribe of Judah. LOL
Rabinical record say Mary's father was Heli not Imran. LOL
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But Your Allah blew his winds into Mary's vagina in Q.21:91, so, why do u have problem with God becoming a Man through Mary?
If your Allah is trully the creator, Can you show me where Allah mentions the shape of the earth accurately? Also, dont bring up Zaik Naik lies that Q.79:30 is an ostrich egg, i will expose this lie easily. LOL
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Excuse me a second, Christians ascribe Partners to God almighty, how?
Muslims are the one who ascribe partners to Allah not the christians.
Allah himself is a polytheist. Q.37:125 Will Ye call Upon Baal and forsake the best of creators.
Who are these creators with Allah?
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Firstly, Muslims claim Jesus was a muslim before Muhammed and now u say Jesus will come to follow Muhammed's teaching of pedophile, adultery, raping female captives, Killing infidel, killing the Jews and christians, bowing down to the kaaba or kissing the black stone. hahahahahahaha
Why Jesus is coming back to bring peace why Not Muhammed?
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really? Jesus will perform the pilgrimage that he did not do in his lifetime but didnt Muhammed say Jesus was a Muslim? so, why Jesus coming back to be performing pilgrimage? LOL
So, Jesus will be buried beside Muhammed, What a fantasy? Can you show me where u read that in the quran and hadith? Or did u get this lie from your Tafsirs? LOL
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I have been so much amused that Even muslims in Indonesia are seeing Jesus in their dreams and they keep reporting this to their various Imams, the imams have been surprised on this. Nobody dreams about Muhammed bcos he is a dead man.
You can google this online and see different articles written by muslims to address the issue. LOL
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According to the bible, the antichrist is anybody that denies the father and the son.
According to the quran, An antichrist is one eyed person......
Allah is the only deity that satisfies the bible defifnition of antichrist becos Allah denies the father and the son.
Paul is not one eyed and also Allah claimed to have sent Paul in Q.36:14-23 according to Ibn kathir. This means Paul was working for the antichrist.
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Then they said to the woman, "Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know this is indeed *Christ, the Savior of the world." John 4:42
"Behold! The lamb of God who takes way the sin of the world." John 1:29
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What blasphemy is this?
Keep your whorehouse paradise to yourself. lol
"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." ~Jesus (Matthew 22:30)
The Pedophile Mohammed must hate the heaven of Jesus. lol for there is no more rape for him.
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Jesus will come back and lock the pedophile mohammed into hell with Satan.
"and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?" ~Jesus (John 11:26)
All muslims shall be burned in hell. (quran 19:71)
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"and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?" ~Jesus (John 11:26)
All muslims shall be burned in hell. (quran 19:71)
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“I have fabricated things against God and imputed to Him words which He has not spoken. " ~Muhammad (Al-Tabari 6:111)
"Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us". ~Muhammad (Tabari 9:69)
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======Pagans knew Allah as the creator? hmmmm, If i may ask, Was Muhammed's father a Mushrikun too because his name was Abdullah meaning Slave of Allah?
The true name of God which the pagans believe created the world is called ilah, Allah means the god, a name given to pagans.
Christians are not polytheist, Jesus is taken as God becos God himself became a Man same way Allah became a Man in Q.19:17
Your hadith and quran confirm Jesus is God. Tell me, Who is the Messiah, Allah or Jesus?
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How do you mean muhammed speaking with his mouth in the quran? Muslims admit Allah only speak in the quran nd the hadith is for muhammed. Are you saying muhammed also talk alongside Allah in the quran?
If Allah is the true creator, can you tell me what did Allah first create in the universe? Secondly, How Did Allah create Eve, the wife of Adam?
Jesus prayed to the father as A Man but as God he prayed to nobody. Jesus had both human and dive nature. Allah also prayed in Q.33:56
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i know, i know, muslims love pedophile prophet:
Q: what is a muslim marriage?
A: A marriage contract gives a muslim man the right to enjoy the woman's private parts. ~Mohammed (Bukhari 7:81)
Q: was Mohammed a pedophile?
A: Aisha, the child bride of Mohammed, said: "The [54-year-old] Apostle of Allah had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old." (Abu Dawud, V2, #2116; Tabari, V7, P7; V9, P131; Sahih Muslim V2, #3309)
When Jesus speaks of 3 days and 3 nights, He speaks in the idiom of the culture of that day. "3 days and 3 nights" pertains to all or part of of the daily cycle as measured from sundown to sundown. His was crucified before sundown on the eve of the Sabbath (Friday). He was laid in the tomb before sundown of the same day--1 day. He lay in the tomb from sundown through the Sabbath to the following sundown --2 days. He then arose on the next day, Sunday --3 days.
God bless us all
Allah is a morning star: Q 53:49 "Lord of Sirius"or"Morning Star""He is the Lord of Sirius (the Mighty Star the Pagan Arabs used to worship)
The Bible says Satan was a morning star fallen from heaven:
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Isaiah 7:14: "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel."1
"Immanuel" literally means: "God with us." See also Matthew 1:23; Jesus was "God with us."
Today may be the time to free yourself from that tyrannical yoke of living in a false religion Islam which came about to glue together a group of robbers, murderers and opportunists.
Muslims do not believe Allah can become a Man but Allah claims He became a man in Q.19:17 and he became a Tree in Q.28:30.
Why muslims reject Allah's words?
Yes, Our God became a Man not krishna.
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Gen 2:21-23 So The Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which The Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
If Eve's creation is pathetic, Can you show us how Allah created Eve in a way that is not pathetic? LOL
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haha. Jesus said in John 13:13 that Ye call me lord And Teacher, So, I am.
Why did u say Jesus deny to be divine in terms of his lordship? Jesus says in Luke 6:5 The son of man is the Lord of the sabbath... Did Jesus deny to be Lord? LOL!!!
Satan worshipper, Why did you ignore Matthew 7:21?
Matt 7:21 NOT everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Sinners who call Jesus lord will be rejected.
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hmmm, You are right for the first time.
Q.29:27 says Prophethood will be in the line of Jacob and Isaac.
Q.45:16 says Prophethood and revelation will be in Israel.
Explain how Muhammed was from the line Of Jacob and isaac. Explain how Muhammed was an isralites?
Allah says he sent messengers to dkifferent nations in Q.14:4 and muhammed testified thart they were all 124;000 in numbers, Where were these prophets and how Prophets to African and asian nations related to israel?
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Allah says in Q.70:40 I swear by the Lord of the rising Places that We are certainly Able...
Who is the Lord, Allah is swearing to here?
You are right, God is one but Allah is not God. LOL
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Yes, Malaika 3:1 says God will be a prophet of the covenant. Without the father, the son can do nothing, without the son, the father can do nothing. Any Judgement of the son is in accordance with the father.
Q.11:119 Erxcept Your Lord saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and men altogether.
Who is the other Lord with Allah?
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What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:2 read the Bible it will Help you.
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Q.3:144 All messengers died before muhammed..... LOL
Q.3:55 O Jesus, I will cause you to die and i will make your followers who believe the truth about you to be superior to those who disbelieve...... LOL
Q.3:185 all souls will die........
Is Jesus God for not dying when muhammed himself died?
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Show me the verse where Jesus said get away from me you evil doers. If you read it context, Jesus was refering to those who live in sin and continue to deceive people with miracles with the name of Jesus.
Thank u very much for showing us the contradiction of the quran in which Q.4:159 conflicts with Q.4:157.
Jesus preached islam? Show me the verse where Jesus preached islam, did Jesus mention kaaba or mecca? Pls, be an hero in islam by answering me.
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hahahahahahaha. Another sick muslim in the house.
How do u know Jesus grew beards? If trully Jesus grew beards, Does that make a person who grow beards like Jesus to be sinless?
Jesus prostrate like Muslims? Did Jesus prostrate with his head facing kaaba? Jesus taught his disciples how to pray, did Jesus tell his disciples to prostrate facing kaaba?
So, Are you saying Issa was Jesus true name in hebrew? Arabic name for Jesus is Yahshua not Issa, Issa is an egyptian name for Jesus.
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firstly, Elisa narrated his stories about Elijah's ascension to other Prophets who knew Elijah would be taken away. A Jewish scribe wrote down this on scroll but the primary author of this was Jeremiah.
Secondly, Peter, John and James witnessed Jesus ascension and the scribe here is Luke who met Peter face to face.
Allah has no problem with Bible's authors.
Who witnessed Issa's being taken away by Allah? LOLOLOL
Who witnessed Muhammed's ascension?
Who is the author of the quran?
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hmmmm, David foretold Jesus sitting on the right hand side of God in Psalms 110:1..
Solomon also witnessed Son and Father God in Proverbs 30:4.
Tell me, If Allah is trully the author of the quran, who is the other lord, Allah is mentioning here
Allah says in Q.11:119 Except thy lord Saves you, I will fill hell fire with Jinns and men altogether..
Allah says in Q.70:40 I swear by the Lord of the rising Places and the setting places of the planets that We are certainly Able..
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Allah says in Q.3:144 that all messengers died before muhammed........Who were these messengers?
Allah says in Q.3:185 that every soul will taste death.......Only God will not die...So,explain why Jesus did not die? Is Jesus God almighty based on Q.3:185?
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there is no twist in the quran bcos Allah made it clear that the quran is written in a clear arabic language for mankind to understand. I gave u my reference in Q.3:55(Asad) O Jesus i will cause you to die...If you refer to Yusuf Ali, And Pickthal they use the word, "gather thee", this phrase means death same word use for Abraham's death in the bible.
It's only Allah that worship another God or swear by inanimate object.
Allah says in Q.27:91 I am commanded to worship the lord..
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i will respond to the so called contradiction in your inbox bcos the explanation is much and this 500 limit cant contain it.
Firstly, the real authors of the bible are the Jewish prophets and Apostles and Jewish scribes wrote down their prophethood and revelation. The names of these scribes are not important because Uthman, Ubaay, Ibn masud are not found in the quran either.
Allah himself has no problem with the bible unnamed scibes in Q.80:13-16 when he called them pious scribes
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OH! !FOOLISH! muslums! You LOVE To BOAST PUBLICLY Of YOUR ?faithless?, MAN MADE OUTWARD RELIGIOSITY, From Your VERY EVIL muhammad!
Are YOU !SO BLIND!? Can YOU STILL !NOT SEE!? That YOU Are Only Doing What Adam And Eve Did, Which !ONLY PROVED! They Were !ETERNALLY LOST! (Gen.3:7)
OUTWARD RELIGIOSITY ONLY TELLS The WHOLE WORLD;
"!I AM HOPELESSLY LOST!"
OUTWARD RELIGIOSITY !DID NOT! Get Adam And Eve BACK Into The GARDEN Of EDEN! What Makes YOU Think It Will Get YOU Into HEAVEN? (Eph.2:8-9)
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'PEOPLE COME From FAR CORNERS Of The Land To THROW PEBBLES At satan (!FUTILE!/Jude 1:9) And To KISS The BLACK STONE! (!YUK!/!IDOLATRY & SPREADING FILTHY DISEASES!/Lev.17:7/1Kings 12:28) How Strange Are The Things They Say! Is ALL MANKIND Becoming BLIND To TRUTH?
O FOOLS, AWAKE! The RITES Ye SACRED Hold Are But A CHEAT CONTRIVED By MEN OF OLD Who LUSTED After WEALTH And GAINED Their LUST And DIED In BASENESS (Acts 8:20-23) And Their LAW Is DUST.' - Abdul Ala Al-Ma'arri
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Even Though The quran BASES ITSELF On The BIBLE, It OFTEN FABRICATES And IGNORES MANY TRUE BIBLE STORIES! ALL Of The BIBLE STORIES Recorded In The quran ARE DISTORTED And TWISTED, Such As The STORIES Of Joseph, Job, Jonah, Moses, Pharaoh, Haman And Others!
[1] islam, A Docrine And A Legislation, By Sheikh Mahmud Shaltut (p.113-114)
[2] Bukhari Vol.2 Book 26 #706 & 710
[3] Bukhari Vol.2 Book 26 #667
For The MYTH Of Hagar Running Between Al-Safa & Al-Marwah Read Buhkari Vol.4, Book 55 #584!
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'Have you then considered Lat and 'Uzza, and another, the third Manat?' - Sura Al Najm 53:19-21
?allah's? 3 Daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, And Manat WERE Sometimes Depicted TOGETHER With ?allah? The MOON ?god? Represented By A CRESCENT MOON Above Them! (AW! HOW CUTE!)
The OLD Testament CONSTANTLY REBUKED The WHORESHIP Of The MOON ?god? See For Example:
(Deut. 4:19/17:3/2Kings 21:3,5/23:5/Jer.8:2/19:13/Zeph
When Israel !FELL! Into Idolatry, It Was USUALLY To The CULT Of The MOON ?god?
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The BLACK STONE (Hubal) Was Considered The MAIN SHRINE, Or SACRED ELEMENT, In Each Temple, Called ka'abah In Arabic!
This REVERED STONE, Which Represented The MOON, Was Considered To Be DIVINE! The WHORESHIP Of The ARABIAN STAR FAMILY With ?allah?, Who Was The MOON As Its HEAD, Revolved Around The BLACK STONE!
Ellat, ?allah’s? Wife, Was The SUN, And Al-Lat, Al-'Uzza And Manat, his Daughters, Represented THREE PLANETS! The PAGAN/HEATHEN Arabs Believed The BLACK STONE Fell From The MOON!
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The Idol 'Na'ila'! muhammad Could CHANGE Those Names To As-Safa And Al-Marwah With The Help Of His EVER PRESENT HANDY DANDY ABRACADABRA ?Guardian Angel? ?jibril? Who Was ALWAYS AVAILABLE To SOLVE muhammad's EVERY LITTLE ANNOYING PROBLEM!
As To KISSING The BLACK STONE, The 2nd Caliph Umar Ibn al-Khattab Said:
'By ?allah?, had I NOT SEEN the ?messenger? of ?allah? FRENCH KISSING IT (BLACK STONE Of HUBAL Bal=Baal!), I WOULD NOT have KISSED IT.' [3]
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40) of the HEATHEN EPOCH, but ?allah? ADOPTED IT as a LAW of his."
Sahih Muslum Also CONFIRMED What Bukhari Wrote, But ADDED The Following Statement, Ibn Abbas:
'During the HEATHEN EPOCH (Known As Al-Jahilya), DEMONS used to ROAM DURING the WHOLE NIGHT BETWEEN THOSE TWO MOUNTAINS.' [2]
BEFORE islum, In PAGAN HEATHEN Arabia, What is Called As-Safa Was The Idol 'Assaf', But muhammad RENAMED It Safa! What Is Called Al-Marwah, Was For The PAGAN HEATHEN Arabs,
39) !ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS CHANGED! except that after that year, muhammad MADE the HAJJ ONLY FOR MUSLUMS, and that the ?UNBELIEVERS? of mecca either had to ACCEPT ISLUM OR DIE.' [1]
The Walk Between As-Safa And Al-Marwah Was A PAGAN RITUAL, As Was FRENCH KISSING The BLACK STONE Of The MOON ?god? HUBAL, In The ka'abah! (?YUK!)
An Arab Said To Anas bin Malik: 'Did you REFUSE to walk between As-Safa and Al-Marwah?' He answered, "YES, because it was one of the RITUALS
38) #5) The 5th OUTWARDLY RELIGIOUS PILLAR Of islum; The PAGAN HAJJ To mecca!
The IDOLATROUS HAJJ Was A Practice Of The PAGANS Of The Arabian Peninsula For MANY CENTURIES BEFORE islum! It WAS/IS A PAGAN/HEATHEN RITUAL That mu how mad himself Observed BEFORE he Started his EVIL MISSION For The WHORE Of Rome!
Imam Mahmud Shaltut Said;
'Even AFTER the CONQUEST of mecca, In the year 9 Of the hijra (Migration From mecca To medina)! The HEATHEN RITUALS of the HAJJ to mecca continued as before!
29) In FASTING, muhammad's ?god? IMPOSED Upon muslums To FAST The MONTH Of RAMADAN, Which Is A FULL MONTH Per Year! But muhammad ADDED More Days, In ADDITION To The LAW Of his ?god?!
Therefore, Whoever FASTED The Month Of RAMADAN Will Have His Reward! But, Whoever FASTS According To muhammad's ADDED Sunnah Will Have EVEN MORE REWARDS!
Then Came To JESUS Scribes And Pharisees, Which Were Of Jerusalem, Saying,
'Why Do THY DISCIPLES TRANSGRESS The TRADITION Of The Elders?
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28) #4) In FASTING! The LORD JESUS CHRIST Said;
*. . . Moreover When YE FAST, Be NOT As The HYPOCRITES, Of A SAD COUNTENANCE: For they DISFIGURE their FACES, That they May APPEAR Unto men To FAST. Verily I Say Unto YOU, they !HAVE their REWARD! But THOU When THOU FASTEST, ANOINT THINE HEAD, And WASH THY FACE;
That THOU APPEAR NOT Unto men To FAST, But Unto THY FATHER Which Is In SECRET: And THY FATHER, Which SEETH In SECRET, Shall REWARD THEE OPENLY.* - Matt.6:16-18
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13) And RESPONSIBILITY Of EVERY muslum TO OBEY- !OR ELSE!
The PARTNERSHIP Of muhammad To GOD In DEEDS Is EVIDENT And MANIFESTED In The DUTIES And RESPONSIBILITIES That Are IMPOSED Upon muslums!
muhammad's ?god? Has IMPOSED Upon The muslums Some DUTIES That Are !REQUIRED! To Be PERFORMED By muslums To CONTINUE To Be ?faithful? And To BE REWARDED!
But muhammad ALSO IMPOSED Upon muslums his OWN RITUALS, Called In Arabic, AL-Sunnah! Whoever FOLLOWS THEM Will Have his REWARDS!
12) YOU PARTNER EVIL men With ?god? Err! DEMONS? YOU Will Inevitably WHORESHIP BOTH! (1Chron. 5:20-25)
muhammad DID NOT Just Commit The BLATANT !SIN! Of
!SHIRK!
he Went EVEN FURTHER In his MAN MADE OUTWARD RELIGIOSITY, To MAKE himself PARTNER With GOD In WORDS- !AND DEEDS!
muhammad ?claimed? The quran Was The Word Of GOD; Therefore It Becomes The DUTY Of EVERY muslum To ABIDE By It! But he MADE himself Also EQUAL To GOD, And FORCED himself Upon muslums And MADE "his words" The DUTY
11) *I AM* The LORD Thy GOD, (Ex.3:14/6:3/Ps.83:18/Is.12:2/
!THOU SHALT HAVE NO ?gods? BEFORE ME!* - Ex.20:2-3
YOU'LL Even HEAR And READ Comments By muslums Like;
'Finally ?prophet? mohamed was the HUMAN'S BEST ROLE MODEL ALL HIS LIFE, he was ?ALL MERCIFUL?'-loay1976/AKA LIAR1976
I ADDED The '?' Marks, Because ALL MERCIFUL (Ar-Rahim) Is 1 Of
10) #1) The SHAHADA!
'i TESTIFY that there is NO ?god? but ?allah?! and i TESTIFY that muhammad is the ?messenger? of ?allah?!'
This Means, islum Is LITERALLY ?allah?+muhammad! ONLY When one CONFESSES ?faith? In !BOTH! ?allah?+muhammad Can one Become A muslum! ?BELIEVING IN? ?allah? !ALONE IS NOT SUFFICIENT! To Become A muslum one !MUST! ?BELIEVE IN? ?allah?+muhammad! islum HAS MADE A SLAVE RAPING PEDOPHILE A PARTNER To GOD!
!AND!
Has BROKEN The 1st COMMANDMENT Of The REAL GOD !JEHOVAH!
9) The LORD JESUS CHRIST EXPOSED ?faithless? OUTWARDLY RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES In HIS TIME On Earth, As Well As OUR TIME! The LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID, RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES;
i) *BOAST PUBLICLY About Doing their ALMS (Charity)* (Matt.6:2-4)
ii) *BOAST PUBLICLY About PRAYING* (Matt.6:5-7)
iii) *BOAST PUBLICLY About FASTING, And DELIBERATELY APPEAR To FAST* (Matt.6:16-18)
muslums LOVE To BOAST PUBLICLY About their 5 PILLARS Of ?faith? #1)SHAHADA #2) ALMS #3) PRAYER #4) FASTING #5) HAJJ!
7) THE ~JUST~ SHALL LIVE BY !FAITH! (Hab.2:4)
OUTWARD RELIGIOSITY Is What BLINDED The Pharisees In JESUS CHRIST'S DAY!
All Throughout History The 1 FLAW Of ALL RELIGIONS Was they Had An OUTWARD APPEARANCE Of PIETY, But INWARDLY they Were SPIRITUALLY DEAD (Matt.23:27) Without GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT!
Just Like muslums !TODAY! With their quran, The Pharisees Thought That, Just Because they HAD The LAW Of Moses, And their RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS, they Were ~JUSTIFIED~ In The EYES Of GOD! (2Tim.3:5)
2. One of his so called "wives" dishes out poisoned food.. evil begets evil..
3. muhammad lusting and raping the body of a 9 year old child???
(goodness must be something new to that false illah named allah..)
4. allah is not illah..
allah = satan a deceiver..."Best of Deceivers"
Sura 3:54 "Allah deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers"
If you say Jesus committed sin, then you are saying Allah is a liar. Q.19:19 Jesus is a holy Son. Q.19:19(Pickthall) Jesus is a fautless son.
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A Lost Soul! John 5:22-24
22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son, 23 in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. 24 Most truly I say to YOU, He that hears my word and believes him that sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.
Doesn't GOD Judge
The man in the video isn't a faithful Christian.
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If Jesus never claimed to be God why did the Jews want to kill him?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.--John 8:58-59
I pray muslim come to the knowledge of the truth and leave the false religion called islam.
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15:19 And the earth have WE spread out, and set therein firm mountains and cause every thing to grow therein in proper proportion
27:61 Is not He Who has made the earth as A FIXED ABODE
35:41 Allah grasps the heavens and the earth LEST THEY MOVE away from their places, and if they were TO MOVE away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him.
Quran say same as Bible verse he use, so he means Q is not scientific then not word of God.
And who is "WE"-a triune God?